No oil after service questionable?

fred246

I think in the 21st century with a job potentially involving people's safety people expect a degree of regulation. It would be nice to think a mechanic had passed some sort of test to prove he knew what he was doing. He was worthy of his licence. If he sent a car out in a dangerous condition he would lose the licence. His licence would be at risk if he failed to complete a task he signed that he had done. Whenever I get on an aeroplane I am always thankful that the aerospace industry is far better regulated than the motor industry.

waamo

fred246 wrote: »

So going back to the original question.
The garage may have done nothing. No qualifications or experience are needed to open a garage. No qualifications or experience are needed to work as a mechanic. If a garage has been found to do nothing the ultimate penalty is to be asked to do an oil change which they should have done in the first place.
They may have sucked a bit out and put a bit in. They may have underfilled it. No excuse for that. One of the big problems is overfilling oil. Garages often do that. With owners not checking you could see why. It still causes damage though. As usual though without having evidence it's impossible to prove anything. Without evidence the motorist has to pick up the bill for the incompetence of garages. You see it time and time again on this forum.

Do you have some evidence to back up your assertions or are you just making it up?

neilmcl

waamo wrote: »

Do you have some evidence to back up your assertions or are you just making it up?

What do you think

neilmcl

fred246 wrote: »

I think in the 21st century with a job potentially involving people's safety people expect a degree of regulation. It would be nice to think a mechanic had passed some sort of test to prove he knew what he was doing. He was worthy of his licence. If he sent a car out in a dangerous condition he would lose the licence. His licence would be at risk if he failed to complete a task he signed that he had done. Whenever I get on an aeroplane I am always thankful that the aerospace industry is far better regulated than the motor industry.

Really. Sorry to burst your bubble, but my dad was an aircraft electrician for over 50+ years and apart from the initial training he received as an apprentice in the Navy he never received any ongoing formal training or required a license to work on either military or commercial aircraft throughout his career.

Mercdriver

fred246 wrote: »

I think in the 21st century with a job potentially involving people's safety people expect a degree of regulation. It would be nice to think a mechanic had passed some sort of test to prove he knew what he was doing. He was worthy of his licence. If he sent a car out in a dangerous condition he would lose the licence. His licence would be at risk if he failed to complete a task he signed that he had done. Whenever I get on an aeroplane I am always thankful that the aerospace industry is far better regulated than the motor industry.

I have been on a plane that caught fire twice because the trained staff didn't isolate the electrical circuit that caused the fire. Was on my birthday too. My wife was freaked out when I told her about it, but I remained philosophical. Mind you we were about to fly to Tokyo at the time. Beggar all I could do, but if people with loads of training can make mistakes anyone can. It doesn't mean you should tar them all with the same brush. I take around 200-250 flights a year. It hasn't put me off. Doubt Greta would like me much...

waamo

I wonder if Fred has been on a 737 max? I have.

Scrapit

fred246 wrote: »

So going back to the original question.
The garage may have done nothing. No qualifications or experience are needed to open a garage. No qualifications or experience are needed to work as a mechanic. If a garage has been found to do nothing the ultimate penalty is to be asked to do an oil change which they should have done in the first place.
They may have sucked a bit out and put a bit in. They may have underfilled it. No excuse for that. One of the big problems is overfilling oil. Garages often do that. With owners not checking you could see why. It still causes damage though. As usual though without having evidence it's impossible to prove anything. Without evidence the motorist has to pick up the bill for the incompetence of garages. You see it time and time again on this forum.

Which part of this post is relevant to the OP And their situation?

fred246

Scrapit wrote: »

Which part of this post is relevant to the OP And their situation?

The OP is asking for advice. We know that garage servicing standards are abysmal. Monkeys at the zoo have all the qualifications that you would need to service a car ie NONE. Monkeys at the zoo have all the experience needed to service a car ie NONE. The most likely reason for a two year old car to have no oil in it is that it wasn't refilled properly after a service. There is a small chance that the oil has been consumed or lost. Given that the oil hasn't been checked it is going to be hard to prove. I wouldn't want to buy this car but it will be sold as a quality car with FSH. That's why I buy new and service them myself. So I know it's been looked after properly for the whole of it's life.

Scrapit

fred246 wrote: »

The OP is asking for advice. We know that garage servicing standards are abysmal. Monkeys at the zoo have all the qualifications that you would need to service a car ie NONE. Monkeys at the zoo have all the experience needed to service a car ie NONE. The most likely reason for a two year old car to have no oil in it is that it wasn't refilled properly after a service. There is a small chance that the oil has been consumed or lost. Given that the oil hasn't been checked it is going to be hard to prove. I wouldn't want to buy this car but it will be sold as a quality car with FSH. That's why I buy new and service them myself. So I know it's been looked after properly for the whole of it's life.

Again, what part of your post is relevant to the OP? You speculate that the service, 3 quarters of a year ago, was the problem. What's that based on? Sounds like you don't have a clue what you are on about, however the level of conviction used suggests you believe what you are writing even though nobody else does.

Mercdriver

fred246 wrote: »

The OP is asking for advice. We know that garage servicing standards are abysmal. Monkeys at the zoo have all the qualifications that you would need to service a car ie NONE. Monkeys at the zoo have all the experience needed to service a car ie NONE. The most likely reason for a two year old car to have no oil in it is that it wasn't refilled properly after a service. There is a small chance that the oil has been consumed or lost. Given that the oil hasn't been checked it is going to be hard to prove. I wouldn't want to buy this car but it will be sold as a quality car with FSH. That's why I buy new and service them myself. So I know it's been looked after properly for the whole of it's life.

Is that the royal WE? Or just you and your other Fred handle?

I's rather take my chances on a garage mechanic than Joe Bloggs who has read a Haynes manual once or twice on one of his cars.

There's only one thing worse than a know-it-all. Someone who thinks he knows it all.