Fluttering parking ticket

KeithP

@Janetx, did you get anything useful back from your FOI request?

Janetx

Hi Keith, Apologies for the delay in replying.My daughter posted the copy of  the courts recent response regarding the paper hearing etc. I have computer trouble which has caused great difficulties! We have not request FOI yet because  I also sent a copy of the complaint to my  MP Geriant Davies letter to my AM .  They responded and we are awaiting a further response from them.   

Janetx

This was the response....... 
Adran yr Economi a Thrafnidiaeth
Department for Economy and Transport
Rydym yn croesawu derbyn gohebiaeth yn Gymraeg. Byddwn yn ateb gohebiaeth a dderbynnir yn Gymraeg yn Gymraeg ac ni fydd gohebu yn Gymraeg yn arwain at oedi.
We welcome receiving correspondence in Welsh. Any correspondence received in Welsh will be answered in Welsh and corresponding in Welsh will not lead to a delay in responding.
QED Centre • Main Avenue Treforest Industrial Estate • CF37 5YR
Etgovernmentbusiness@wales.gov etgovernmentbusiness@cymru.gov Canolfan Cyswllt Cyntaf / First Point of Contact Centre 0300 0604400 Ein cyf/Our ref  

Julie James AM Julie.James@assembly.wales
 Dear Assembly Member
Thank you for your letter dated 27 April to the Minister for Finance and Trefnydd on behalf of a constituent who has an issue with a private parking company. I have been asked to reply.
Following a procurement process, Welsh Ministers entered into a licence with XX XXXXXXXX  Ltd in April 2016 to manage the estate car parks and they in turn appointed Excel Parking Services Ltd. to carry out the day to day duties.
We have requested from XX Xxxxxxxxx Xxxxxxxxx Ltd the number of PCN’s issued at the SA1 estate (4 car parks) over a number of months and have been advised that from January 2019-November 2019 444 PCN were issued. This is approximately an average of 9.25 parking tickets issued per week. Of the 444 tickets issued a total of 6 went to appeal, of which 3 were successful and 3 were not.
Due to the Covid-19 issue and staff at the parking company being furloughed they have only been able to provide us with general information. We have written to Xx Xxxxxxxxx Xxxxxxxxx Ltd asking for them to review and subsequently confirm that they and Excel Parking Services Ltd are operating within the industry guidelines. We have also asked them to confirm with the local town planning authority that they are compliant with the Town & Country Planning legislation regarding operational signage for the car parks.
We are awaiting a response on both of these points and will write to you again once this is received.

Yours sincerely
Peter Kaminaris
Property Surveyor 19 May 2020

Janetx

I'm not filled with any hope as they have produced some  figures shown  above....which would require evidence from them....... to back this statement up.... 

Umkomaas

Of the 444 tickets issued a total of 6 went to appeal, of which 3 were successful and 3 were not.

Wow, only 6/444 tickets appealed?  Did everyone else either ignore or pay up (rhetorical question!)?

We have written to Xx Xxxxxxxxx Xxxxxxxxx Ltd asking for them to review and subsequently confirm that they and Excel Parking Services Ltd are operating within the industry guidelines.

Not sure who's being asked this, but I'm sure if Excel are replying they're hardly likely to say 'No we are not operating within the industry guidelines'!  What a daft question to ask. 

Janetx

The Welsh Asembly have written to the company that they have  the licence with.....Xx Xxxxxxxxx Xxxxxxxxx Ltd and I agree what a silly question to ask as they are hardly likely to say that they are ripping people off and making what amounts to fraudlent claims in the courts!

Janetx

I would think everyone else paid up....

Redx

I wouldn't , I would think most people ignored their PCN,s and they are stuck in limbo land

Castle

Umkomaas said:

Of the 444 tickets issued a total of 6 went to appeal, of which 3 were successful and 3 were not.

Wow, only 6/444 tickets appealed?  Did everyone else either ignore or pay up (rhetorical question!)?

IPC member; so perhaps word has got around not to waste time on an appeal.

Umkomaas

Castle said:

Umkomaas said:

Of the 444 tickets issued a total of 6 went to appeal, of which 3 were successful and 3 were not.

Wow, only 6/444 tickets appealed?  Did everyone else either ignore or pay up (rhetorical question!)?

IPC member; so perhaps word has got around not to waste time on an appeal.

Well it won't be the fella down the pub telling them to ignore at the moment!