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Is he a BAD mortgage broker?

MaiseMeal
MaiseMeal Posts: 21 Forumite
edited 23 December 2019 at 2:43PM in House buying, renting & selling
Property I want to buy for £240,000 was down valued by £15,000

I wanted to put a 20% deposit of £48,000, 80%LTV at 192,000 mortgage fixed 2 years

I told him i want to negotiaite with the sellers to get a cheaper price on the house. And he gives me this answer:

"Natwest will only assess the property based on their valuation of £225k. You can still proceed with the purchase and use the Natwest offer, however, we’d have to amend the product on the application to fit with the new loan to value that is based on the valuation figure (see my previous email with the different mortgage product options).
Otherwise, the only other option is to try the next best mortgage lender and get them to value to the property.

£225k is the valuation that the surveyor has put on the property, so this is what Natwest will use. I’m afraid they won’t work with any other figure now the valuation has been carried out."

The mortgage advisor would rather I increase my LTV and get higher interest rates than even try and negotiaite money off the house price.


He gave me these options:
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I'm trying to at most go halfway with the sellers by doing £7,500 making purcahse price £232,500
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  • ACG
    ACG Posts: 24,394 Forumite
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    You can renegotiate the purchase price, but he is right, natwest will still work on the assumption that it is valued at £225k even if you renegotiate to £230k.

    So effectively you can still purchase put you will still end up on a higher LTV product. However, if you were to renegotiate to £225k you could keep your 80% product.

    It could just be a misunderstanding in communication?
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  • Exodi
    Exodi Posts: 3,622 Forumite
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    I don't understand why you think he's a bad mortgage broker? Everything he has said is sensible?
    Know what you don't
  • AdrianC
    AdrianC Posts: 42,189 Forumite
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    BAD mortgage broker. No biscuit.

    The broker has nothing to do with what price you negotiate. He's merely finding you somebody willing to lend you however much you need.

    What he's telling you is that NW are simply regarding the surveyor's value as the figure they'll use for calculating LtV, should you pay more. No more, no less.
  • MaiseMeal
    MaiseMeal Posts: 21 Forumite
    edited 23 December 2019 at 2:58PM
    Exodi wrote: »
    I don't understand why you think he's a bad mortgage broker? Everything he has said is sensible?
    From his emails it seems he doesnt want me to negotiate a lower price on the house. I have put foward how strongly I want to reduce the purchase price of the house and he is replying as if thats not an option.


    I was buying a house this year July (fell through) and it was undervalued by £10,000 with Natwest direct from website and they accepted the mortgage. So im surprised when I have decided to go with broker, there's no wiggle room.
  • You're reading something into his emails that isn't there.

    You can negotiate whatever price you want and if you end up needing to borrow less, then you borrow less.

    Your negotiations are nothing to do with him apart from him telling you the max you can borrow.
  • bigisi
    bigisi Posts: 925 Forumite
    Bad broker or bad customer?

    I think I know.
  • MaiseMeal wrote: »
    From his emails it seems he doesnt want me to negotiate a lower price on the house. I have put foward how strongly I want to reduce the purchase price of the house and he is replying as if thats not an option.


    I was buying a house this year July (fell through) and it was undervalued by £10,000 with Natwest direct from website and they accepted the mortgage. So im surprised when I have decided to go with broker, there's no wiggle room.

    You can negotiate whatever price you like but that is nothing to do with him. He is working on the assumption that the price is the price you have told him.

    You seem to be aware that negotiating a lower price is an option you have, so what is your issue?
  • If you negoatiate a lower price its not a issue, natwest would reduce the borrowing amount to account for the deposit.

    All your broker is stating is that they wont change the valuation of the property not the borrowing.
  • bigisi wrote: »
    Bad broker or bad customer?

    I think I know.
    If you think you know, please share.
  • AdrianC
    AdrianC Posts: 42,189 Forumite
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    MaiseMeal wrote: »
    From his emails it seems he doesnt want me to negotiate a lower price on the house.
    No, he quite literally could not care less either way.

    It's not his job, not his problem.

    YOU tell HIM what price you've negotiated, HE finds YOU the lender.
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