Windows 10 likely to be incompatible?

debitcardmayhem

Btw if you enter your W7 key it should activate on 10, I just recently upgraded a laptop from home to pro using my old retail key , it probably would do the same for you. Nothing ventured and all that

JustAnotherSaver

almillar wrote: »

Good stuff. Plan:


Download the Media Creation tool from Microsoft.
It will guide you through downloading the (x64) Windows, and putting it onto a bootable 8GB stick. You're stick will be wiped, obviously.
Boot from the stick, install Windows onto a blank drive. The installer can wipe it if you want.
It will ask you for a Key. You can click 'I don't have a key' or similar, and it will continue to install.
When it's installed, you've got ages to activate it, don't worry about that. The easiest way I can think of to make sure you've got drivers for everything is run Windows Update, until it says you're up to date. That will include umpteen drivers for umpteen devices and it's very likely all your stuff is in here. Wait until all this is done, then plug anything else in, one at a time. Windows will try to find and install drivers for it. If not, only then do you need to start hunting the web.

So basically it's similar to Windows 7 in a way - you can have the licence but until you actually click through to activate, the licence will still be tied to Windows 7 and then after X-days (30 i'm assuming if W7 is anything to go by) you'd either have to activate or you wont access W10 any more.


Right?

that

more or less, but not really.

your windows 7 license is transferable

after think 30 days it starts to nag, and some features may not work (unsure of this though), but generally it still works.

there is no situation where it suddenly stops working, or I have not come across any, but all our are licensed anyway.

dekaspace

Windows 10 is a hit and miss situation, parents had a 2009 laptop that had 10 installed on it and updates would take around a day to install, and even on desktop hog most of the cpu so it was near unusable, I reinstalled 7 and it worked for another 2 years until it died.

I had a high end laptop from 2013 (a i7 with 8 gig of ram) that to this day runs 7 amazingly, when I tested 10 on it from a clean install it was sluggish to say the least.

wongataa wrote: »

Windows 10 is more secure than Windows 7. It is less likely to be hacked. Anyway, the operating system doesn't have much say in what websites you can or can not access. That is down to the web browser you use. The only issue you could come up against access websites is if you needed an up to date browser and you couldn't install one as the OS is to old. That doesn't apply to Windows 7 yet.

That isn't strictly correct its only as secure as the hackers efforts are and older OS's having things that were never patched out due to age.



Thats why Linux and AppleOS get viruses less often

Same for multiple other systems, the thing I tend to notice is Windows 10 tends to only work well with SSD's likely due to the speed boost from it lowering the hit 10 takes on the hardware.

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dekaspace wrote: »

Windows 10 is a hit and miss situation, parents had a 2009 laptop that had 10 installed on it and updates would take around a day to install, and even on desktop hog most of the cpu so it was near unusable, I reinstalled 7 and it worked for another 2 years until it died.

I had a high end laptop from 2013 (a i7 with 8 gig of ram) that to this day runs 7 amazingly, when I tested 10 on it from a clean install it was sluggish to say the least

I had a old hp laptop that worked very well under windows 7 too, was dead slow on 10. the difference was for me, windows 7 was x32, and 10 was x64 with 4gb memory.

As software improves and gains more features it will become larger, less efficient and slower.

Also SATA AHCI controller driver compatibility problem. If you have updated your OS from Windows 7, then note that SATA AHCI controller driver for Windows 7 will not work with Windows 10. You have to download and install Latest Updated Standard SATA AHCI Controller Drivers for Windows 10. You will see this SATA AHCI controller driver Issue while restarting PC or Shutting Down. Some could not get new AHCI drivers for their system, as the computers were win 7 only supported


Some people will notice little improvement with ssd, If you old device supports sata 1 which is more or less the throughput of a rust spinner and add an ssd, then the ssd will perform similarly to a rust spinner, especially with no ahci, and will emulate a pata ide drive and perform as such.

On some machines of the xp era, the ahci was in the form of a driver, rather than in the bios. Also ahci was not supported by some chipsets.

Sata 2 gave ssd a noticeable advantage, but the real gold was sata 3. Couple the throughput of sata3 with fast seek times of ssd, and everyone jumped on the bandwagon.

EveryWhere

that wrote: »

I had a old hp laptop that worked very well under windows 7 too, was dead slow on 10. the difference was for me, windows 7 was x32, and 10 was x64 with 4gb memory.

As software improves and gains more features it will become larger, less efficient and slower.

Also SATA AHCI controller driver compatibility problem. If you have updated your OS from Windows 7, then note that SATA AHCI controller driver for Windows 7 will not work with Windows 10. You have to download and install Latest Updated Standard SATA AHCI Controller Drivers for Windows 10. You will see this SATA AHCI controller driver Issue while restarting PC or Shutting Down. Some could not get new AHCI drivers for their system, as the computers were win 7 only supported


Some people will notice little improvement with ssd, If you old device supports sata 1 which is more or less the throughput of a rust spinner and add an ssd, then the ssd will perform similarly to a rust spinner, especially with no ahci, and will emulate a pata ide drive and perform as such.

On some machines of the xp era, the ahci was in the form of a driver, rather than in the bios. Also ahci was not supported by some chipsets.

Sata 2 gave ssd a noticeable advantage, but the real gold was sata 3. Couple the throughput of sata3 with fast seek times of ssd, and everyone jumped on the bandwagon.

Not true in practice, since the benefit of SSD is not just in sequential reads/writes.

I have an ACER ZG5, so I know the difference between HDD and SSD with SATA 1 limitations.

With HDD, the Netbook was literally unusable. You would need to wait minutes before being able to do anything. With SSD, thirty seconds later, I'd be getting on with the task at hand.

that

I had a friend with one of these https://www.amazon.com/HP-M2n68-Narra5-Asus-Motherboard/dp/B003A902PG and a AMD Athlon X4 as part of Compaq Presario bundle

I put a usb 3.0 card in there and it would not work, the bios just could not handle it, no bios updates either. The card worked fine in my pc.

To top it off I put a ssd in it. This was actually slower than a normal disk. I can't honestly say why. It had a brand new windows 8 install at that time. she lived too far, visiting time was short, and was a regular user, so I could not take it home to investigate. It also could have been an obscure electronic fault, but suspect the Trim command was not being passed through too. Thank heavens most of the old stuff is now obsolete!

You always remember the failures, fortunately they have been few.

arciere

that wrote: »

I put a usb 3.0 card in there and it would not work, the bios just could not handle it, no bios updates either. The card worked fine in my pc.

It's likely that the BIOS couldn't handle boot from external cards, probably it would have been the same if the card was a SATA PCIe card.

In regards to HDD versus SSD in old machines, sometimes the difference we see is not because of the SSD, rather a new drive vs a possibly 10-year old drive (slow rpm, not enough cache, etc...). You would probably see a similar improvement with a new HDD drive.

EveryWhere

that wrote: »

I had a friend with one of these https://www.amazon.com/HP-M2n68-Narra5-Asus-Motherboard/dp/B003A902PG and a AMD Athlon X4 as part of Compaq Presario bundle

I put a usb 3.0 card in there and it would not work, the bios just could not handle it, no bios updates either. The card worked fine in my pc.

To top it off I put a ssd in it. This was actually slower than a normal disk. I can't honestly say why. It had a brand new windows 8 install at that time. she lived too far, visiting time was short, and was a regular user, so I could not take it home to investigate. It also could have been an obscure electronic fault, but suspect the Trim command was not being passed through too. Thank heavens most of the old stuff is now obsolete!

You always remember the failures, fortunately they have been few.

Did you try it in RAID mode? Obviously too long ago...

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EveryWhere wrote: »

Did you try it in RAID mode? Obviously too long ago...

No raid mode or ahci in that bios. Very basic bios. Did read about software ahci, but think that was vapourware as I could not find it