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  • nosferatu1001
    nosferatu1001 Posts: 12,961 Forumite
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    So are the two spots in red, outside plot 33, yours?
    If so they are clearly stated as freehold
    In which case the estate management can sod off. Theyre not the landowner, they have no right to enter into contracts with parking companies to "manage" that space. 
  • Yes the 2 dark greyed out parking spots are mine ....
  • nosferatu1001
    nosferatu1001 Posts: 12,961 Forumite
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    And you can see it states freehold, yes?
  • Yes that's why I'm confused as in my mind it 'belongs' to me....
  • Redx
    Redx Posts: 38,084 Forumite
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    edited 3 September 2020 at 4:03PM
    Seems to me that those 2 spots are freehold and come with the freehold property , which is what you believe , this should have been made clear by your solicitor

    Any management company obtaining payment is for other items like maybe green spaces , roads , utility areas etc

    Read the ukpc Vs Davey success case where he took out an injunction about a decade ago

    As for the deeds , I received mine from the Halifax when my mortgage was paid off , hence me second guessing that you have a mortgage !! Lol

    They will be stored in some storage facility somewhere , but the land registry info is all you should need
  • Yes I pay for the cleaning of the carpark (not that I've seen it done) and plants etc. 

    Thanks for the info about the deeds. Im so silly searching the whole house. 
  • sadwithoutmynelson
    sadwithoutmynelson Posts: 228 Forumite
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    edited 3 September 2020 at 5:43PM
    My solicitor just emailed me this 

    In respect of the car parking spaces these are included in the sale of the plots but are subject to a management charge imposed by the management Company for the apartment area, which includes the car parking arrangements. # will as part of the Development Agreement transfer the land upon which the car park and apartments are to be built at some time in the future. Up to such transfer #council will have day to day control of the development of the car parking areas, including the accessway. 

    The above provides an explanation about the parking spaces being included in the sale (you own them) but they are subject to the charge imposed by the management company.

    My solicitor has further wrote - my professional opinion is that whilst you own the property and parking spaces, they are subject to the management charge.

    So thats where I'm at......

    Not sure where I stand or how to progress....
  • nosferatu1001
    nosferatu1001 Posts: 12,961 Forumite
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    Why don't you know?
    manageement charge - yes
    that doesn't mean they can sell your space to someone else. They have no rights to do so. 
  • Ok so I im in the right ? It is my parking. How do I progress from here please. 
  • This is what the estate management company had said when I told them previously they have no right to manage my space. 

    You own the area as marked in red on the plan. This land has been transferred to you with specific covenants that are listed in your transfer ((TP1).

     

    The car parking space is not owned by you. It is part of the managed area which is why you contribute to the Management Company.

     

    I would suggest you seek legal advice regarding the transfer if you do not believe this to be the case 


    They have said this to me repeatedly when i have objected to cpm managing my spots. 

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