Election impact on investments

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newbinvestor wrote: »

You sound like Donald Trump

I am sorry; was’t aware I was not allowed to use the word when referring to my wive’s family because Trump uses it.

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nigelbb wrote: »

This was Labour Leave voters who preferred to vote Tory rather than have another referendum.

One of the key reasons. Here is another: https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/labour-party/jeremy-corbyn/news/106687/jeremy-corbyn-most-unpopular

DairyQueen

Deleted_User wrote: »

My wive’s family is from the North East. Great people. Labour was their religion. Last night as the names of the places that elected Tory MPs started to come in, my jaw dropped.

Reading some of the Corbynista reactions this morning, it reminded me of the Leninist principle: working class can’t be trusted to decide what’s best for the working class. Also: 1. None of it is the fault of the party leader. 2. Entirely the fault of 0.04% of the population 3. “ Hope your baby is still born” (nicer, gentler politics).

Couldn't agree more.

My Cambridge-educated, champagne socialist sis-in-law spouts exactly that view. Having received her medical degree FOC courtesy of those northern/Welsh/Midlands taxpayers, she was well-positioned to exit the UK early in her career and earn her millions, and pay her taxes, stateside. She recently retired and came back to Blighty in a timely move away from expensive US healthcare to the FOC UK system.

She has spent her entire life taking from this country, and has given zero back. She must have cost us a packet and the best is yet to come as now we will be stitched-up for her old age healthcare costs.

The first thing she did - the very first - on her return was to apply for her pensioner London travel card. I kid you not.

This is one Londoner perk that I would like to see means-tested - and soon.

She has the absolute temerity to condemn those less privileged who have funded the means of her success, her education, and will now fund her dotage, as "stupid" and "ignorant". After decades in the states she seems blithely unaware of one of the most famous of all presidential inaugural quotes: "ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country".

Unusually, I am looking forward to our next meeting.

DairyQueen

Sea_Shell wrote: »

What I don't quite understand, is how come the SNP want independence from the UK, but still want to be part of Europe and "ruled" by Brussels?

Remove the UK subsidy and the Scottish economy will be in deep do-do. P'raps they imagine a utopia of no-strings independence courtesy of EU cash as opposed to semi-independence courtesy of UK cash?

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The one disappointment was the Lib Dems performance. Jo’s speech was great yesterday. They did increase their share of the vote but big city people outside of Corbynista core must have been so scared of the words “PM Corbyn” that many went all the way to voting conservative.

Ganga

Deleted_User wrote: »

My wive’s family is from the North East. Great people. Labour was their religion. Last night as the names of the places that elected Tory MPs started to come in, my jaw dropped.

Reading some of the Corbynista reactions this morning, it reminded me of the Leninist principle: working class can’t be trusted to decide what’s best for the working class. Also: 1. None of it is the fault of the party leader. 2. Entirely the fault of 0.04% of the population 3. “ Hope your baby is still born” (nicer, gentler politics).

Thank you :T

DairyQueen

nigelbb wrote: »

Maybe because countries are in fact not "ruled" by Brussels? The EU is a cooperative enterprise with all members involved in making the rules for the greater good.

Ho ho ho.

Not sure which universe you live in but it isn't the one of EU German-French dominance that I've witnessed these last several decades.

Triumph13

nigelbb wrote: »

This was Labour Leave voters who preferred to vote Tory rather than have another referendum.

Not according to what the voters said when asked:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/general-election-result-jeremy-corbyn-brexit-labour-boris-johnson-a9246046.html

bostonerimus

Sea_Shell wrote: »

What I don't quite understand, is how come the SNP want independence from the UK, but still want to be part of Europe and "ruled" by Brussels?

To understand you need to grasp that many people do not consider being a member of the EU as meaning that they are ruled from Brussels. The facts of the matter can be debated but some empathy for other people's beliefs goes a long way to understanding their actions and desires. We need more of a dialectic in the Hegelian meaning.

DairyQueen

Deleted_User wrote: »

The one disappointment was the Lib Dems performance. Jo’s speech was great yesterday. They did increase their share of the vote but big city people outside of Corbynista core must have been so scared of the words “PM Corbyn” that many went all the way to voting conservative.

Anecdotally, I picked-up on a couple of points. Some prospective (remainer) Tory-LD converts decided that voting LD would be 'a wasted' vote (sounds familiar?). Others, as you say, were more committed to keeping Corbyn out than they were to maintaining EU membership.

Anti-Corbyn/hard-left seems to have been as much a driver as Brexit for many. Shame the LDs focused so much on Brexit. Missed opportunity as a more generalist manifesto may have resulted in them becoming the second of the UK's major parties.

The result suggests that the UK is a majority-Goldilocks electorate. We reject the extremes of the political spectrum but the LDs failed to exploit the moderate-left gap in the political market left empty by Tony Blair.

Having said that, I think that Johnson is far more moderate than he is currently credited. Wouldn't be a bit surprised to see a softer Brexit now that he is free of the need to cooperate with various extremes within his own party.