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  • GreatApe
    GreatApe Posts: 4,452 Forumite
    Martyn1981 wrote: »
    and faith based beliefs above science and facts

    You hold no scientific qualifications whatsoever
    But I have the internet to back me up!!
    That big open forum anyone can find anything to confirm their biases?
    Yes! do you know of it?
    :rotfl:
  • GreatApe
    GreatApe Posts: 4,452 Forumite
    you seem to be picking up on my posts an awful lot and having hurtful digs at me. The one above was particularly nasty and made me actually cry.

    We hurt the ones we love :heart2:
    interesting how you keep banging on about discussing ideas rather than people, yet you keep discussing me in a vain attempt to ignore the holes I poked in your 'replace the London underground trains with lots of self driving cars' idea. :rotfl:

    Can't you tell I'm obsessed with you?
  • GreatApe
    GreatApe Posts: 4,452 Forumite
    It depends on what you believe is the right thing. Some people probably think putting a couple of solar panels on their roof means they're 'doing the right thing [for the environment]' even though they drive a hummer and have 5 long haul holidays a year.

    There is no universal right or wrong

    Just agreements written or otherwise between groups
    Free discussion is as close as we have to a system of implementing our values Without having to kill each other

    Democracy is the one system we have invented which allows groups to disagree and not kill each other to implement their particular world views

    You don't like some of my views that's fine
    But I can hold them However crazy they are
    You too can hold your views However crazy they are
    We then talk And try to convince each other or the masses
    Whoever does this best gets to implement their will for a time
    And the other side gets to disagree and then we go to the masses again and explain our world views
    And whoever does this best gets some time to implement their world view
    And so it goes on and on
  • GreatApe
    GreatApe Posts: 4,452 Forumite
    Martyn1981 wrote: »
    Being an enabler of a fundamentalist is even worse.

    What's wrong with being a fundamentalist?
    It's a perfectly valid position to believe in any written text you like
    At least a few billion people are fundamentalist

    You may hold your nose up at them
    How uneducated how ignorant how fundamentalist
    But you won't get anywhere acting like that
    Dismissing them and their views with your arrogance
  • GreatApe wrote: »
    You hold no scientific qualifications whatsoever
    But I have the internet to back me up!!
    That big open forum anyone can find anything to confirm their biases?
    Yes! do you know of it?
    :rotfl:

    I thought your credo was:
    GreatApe wrote: »
    I read what's posted and comment on that rather than who posted it .Something I suggest more people should do
    GreatApe wrote: »
    You know what they say Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.

    Or does this only hold when people attack you, not when you attack other people? Hypocrisy or a case of being able to dish it out but not take it?
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  • ABrass
    ABrass Posts: 1,005 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 500 Posts Name Dropper
    'replace the London underground trains with lots of self driving cars' idea.
    Ignoring the elephant in the room...

    The idea of replacing full scale rail (overground trains) with light rail (monorail!) comes up every now and again. It doesn't work well at the same scale, obviously, but is cheaper.

    The boring company approach is more akin to a monorail than it is to the tube or to cross rail. It might, if it works really well in Vegas, allow some towns or cities to have their own mini-tube if it brings the price down for a subscale tube network. It really won't replace the tube, that's just crazy talk.

    Nor would retrofitting the tube network with the boring company skates make sense. It's not designed to enable that sort of movement or passenger flow.

    The Vegas project will be most illuminating.
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  • JKenH wrote: »
    Keep posting your left field ideas. I don’t agree with them all (in fact very few of them) but they make me stop and think. There are far too many closed minds on this forum. Some people just can’t handle anything that challenges their view of the world.


    They certainly make me stop and think, but I can't say what they make me think as that would be rude.


    But you need to distinguish between challenging views and the random assembly of dunious ideas and figures that I occasionally see quoted. The poster is no Copernicus or Galileo: the reverse in fact; our own thread flat-earther.
  • JKenH
    JKenH Posts: 5,117 Forumite
    Sixth Anniversary 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    They certainly make me stop and think, but I can't say what they make me think as that would be rude.


    But you need to distinguish between challenging views and the random assembly of dunious ideas and figures that I occasionally see quoted. The poster is no Copernicus or Galileo: the reverse in fact; our own thread flat-earther.

    It’s like panning for gold. Don’t give up on him. Just sieve out the tiny nuggets that are worth keeping and discard the rest.
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  • ABrass
    ABrass Posts: 1,005 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 500 Posts Name Dropper
    I think it's more like sifting through a pile of excrement in a third world nation for a dropped mobile phone. And that sort of behaviour results in people being killed by the smell (well, toxic gas buildups).

    Sometimes it's not worth it, just let them go and get some new ideas that don't involve digging through !!!!.
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  • JKenH wrote: »
    It’s like panning for gold. Don’t give up on him. Just sieve out the tiny nuggets that are worth keeping and discard the rest.


    LOL! You must have more time or patience than I have (and that's speaking as someone who can show infinite patience to a dyslexic kid learning English as a foreign language).
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