Housing association letting me down!

pickledonionspaceraider

AdrianC wrote: »

Let's just put some context to the timeline, before you go around with accusations like that.

Post 7, they mention it's their first time renting.
Post 11, they mentioned a business/law background.
Post 15, they mentioned having studied at university - with no timescale.
Post 16 was the last time they posted here, their 7th post in the thread.
Post 19, I asked if they were fresh out of uni - not answered.
Post 23 was the last post they'd have seen based on their last-login time - of course, they may have visited the thread without logging in.
Post 25, Davesnave suggested they may have "enabling circumstances" - it certainly hadn't crossed my mind until then.

Yes I have read the thread. Thanks!

None of the above make it acceptable for passive aggressive insults.

We wouldn't make up insults for any other group, yet we are happy to do it for the broad range of our own children and grandchildrens generation.

I actually think this world will implode up it's own rear end

AdrianC

pickledonionspaceraider wrote: »

We wouldn't make up insults for any other group

You're making a massive leap of logic.
You're assuming that the attitudes (and some posts certainly have been beyond the pale) are because of the OP's presumed age.

I'm asking you to turn that around - Is it acceptable to excuse the attitudes of those who are simply being ridiculous and setting themselves up for a fall, just because of their presumed age?

The end results of them putting so much attitude at their landlord, when it comes to their tenancy, will be the exact same, of course.

pickledonionspaceraider

AdrianC wrote: »

You're making a massive leap of logic.
You're assuming that the attitudes (and some posts certainly have been beyond the pale) are because of the OP's presumed age.

I'm asking you to turn that around - Is it acceptable to excuse the attitudes of those who are simply being ridiculous and setting themselves up for a fall, just because of their presumed age?

The end results of them putting so much attitude at their landlord, when it comes to their tenancy, will be the exact same, of course.

If one feels the question ridiculous, it is not up to us to make someone feel foolish for simply asking a question on a forum.

It is not up to us to hold it against them or excuse them.

AdrianC

pickledonionspaceraider wrote: »

If one feels the question ridiculous, it is not up to us to make someone feel foolish for simply asking a question on a forum.

The start of the thread answered their questions in a perfectly appropriate manner.

It descended only after it became clear the OP was not intending to listen to reality and reason. And that's nothing to do with age. If you think it is, then is it not you who's doing the pigeonholing by group membership?

pickledonionspaceraider

AdrianC wrote: »

The start of the thread answered their questions in a perfectly appropriate manner.

The start of the thread answered their questions with a side order of snark and patronisation, along with the constant repeated reminders of how lucky he is to have a HA flat.

danlewi2

pickledonionspaceraider wrote: »

Indeed. In my city, you cannot get on to the Local Authority Housing Register without having some enabling circumstance.

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Actually that is not always the case - I rented a flat from a housing association after they got to the bottom of list of applicants for flats in a new build.

pickledonionspaceraider

danlewi2 wrote: »

Actually that is not always the case - I rented a flat from a housing association after they got to the bottom of list of applicants for flats in a new build.

Yep, that's why I put 'in my City'

It is even quite hard to get on to the waiting list here - are the rules more lax there?

Here you have to have an entire household income of less thank 16k, have no previous rent arrears, be a resident for at least 3 years before - and that may get you to the back of a que of 11,000 people. I hear of families going on the list when they have a small child, and still be waiting when the child is an adult

If you don't have a medical condition, going on the waiting list is just a cursory thing, you will be waiting forever. I put in a FOI request to our local council last year and the longest waiting family first went on the list in 1981 (I wish I was joking)

If you have a medical condition, you go up a band - but still a several year wait with no guarantee.

It is very hard for people here. Huge homeless issue. But that is just here I am describing, not the entire UK

What are the waiting lists like in other areas?

jackoftrade

UPDATE:

I had a meeting with a manager of the HA and a surveyor on Friday, who carried out an inspection of the property. If anything, I did them a favour as the views came from me, a resident as there were a few issues raised and they have plans to renovate the whole building and put things right. I think some of your views are not needed, I am very open to constructive criticism but please can I ask some of you to stop degrading me. It's my first time moving out so please respect that.

seven-day-weekend

Davesnave wrote: »

I'm thinking of a high-functioning young man who lives near me, who's on the autistic spectrum. He's perfectly capable of independent living, but is still very rule-bound and prone to take things people say/write very literally.

I've found it very heartening to have witnessed this person go from averting eyes and not appearing to see me as a teenager, to someone who now initiates conversations. I don't think the vast improvement in his coping strategies has come about through people being rude, or telling him his many concerns about rule breaking (e.g. people not sorting their recycling correctly) are just a crazy fixation he should have grown out of.

My son's partner, who is also on the autistic spectrum, gets incredibly stressed if her colleagues at work (she is a school cleaner), don't clean the way she thinks they should. She has learned that she has to keep her mouth shut about it at work, but comes home and ear-bends my son and has even been known to cry about it.

I don't know whether the OP is on the spectrum or not, but I will say anyway -

Fit a battery and then wait for the 'proper' repair.

Your neighbour's attire is not important;

Clean up the leaves yourself if they worry you that much.

Life doesn't always come packed in neat little packages and sometimes rules are interpreted rather than followed to the letter.

Cakeguts

I also think that people are making assumptions about the university bit. I live in London and there are 11 universities here that offer degrees that are roughly the same level as an old O level or grade 1 CSE. Before anyone jumps on me for saying this the one round the corner displays the work the students have done on the fence outside and it really is very very basic. I have also done an internal part time course at another one. The degrees are in the sort of thing you used to do at adult evening classes and technical college. There are 11 here in London offering courses like that. You have to be careful if you are old like me to understand that a university degree these days does not mean what it used to do.



What I know about high functioning autism which isn't a lot is that people learn how to fit in. If they don't learn that then they don't get accommodation on their own they get supported housing which is entirely different.



What this sounds like to me is someone who hasn't yet had the opportunity to understand how the world works. It is possible that they went to university and stayed at their parents home to study. Often when that happens they go to the nearest university and one that is easy to get into because of some other problem that we don't know about.



I have for a long time wondered about studying at college/ university as a time filling exercise rather than an educational one instead of vocational courses where you learn something useful like how to socialise with people of all ages and how to live and budget on your own. So evening classes rather than daytime. For example you are unlikely to meet someone who is working but with skills that can help you at university but you could meet them at an evening class.



This is where I am going to start with this problem. If you live at home until you are an adult and your parents get repairs done to their house quite quickly when you move out you have got to adjust to the fact that you are not anymore living at home and other people do not live their lives in quite the same way as your family. Not only that but some repairs are not seen as urgent in the way that your parents might see them because they want to keep their home in good condition but also because one property is easier to repair than a block of flats. The longer you continue to live at home with your parents the more of a problem it is to adjust to living on your own. That is even for a person who has no other circumstances. I think it is a bit like getting institutionalised.