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Neighbour and management threatening fines and eviction
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Lets have a go at problem solving. Much of this problem is caused by the wooden flooring so ask your landlord to put down fitted carpet in the whole flat. As long as it has good underlay and it covers the whole floor it shouldn't be all that expensive. In a rented flat you don't get the top quality carpet and with small children you won't want it.
From the response of the landlord you will be able to tell whether they are a good landlord or not. If they spend money on the carpet then you have a good one who cares about his tenants and their neighbours. If not then you are going to be wanting to move at the end of the tenancy anyway.
What does the lease say about wooden flooring I wonder? This is possibly a matter for the LL to address.0 -
need_an_answer wrote: »but the fact that you've never seen anything like a "child clause" before might be because it would be totally unenforceable in any reasonable lease.
Even the wording of this one is slightly adrift ...define outside the property?
Would that be from street level or from the point that a near neighbour has their ear against the door...just saying!
In a communal area of the building or externally..it raises questions the more you wish to delve into a particular clause really
I don't disagree
"Child clause" was me being lazy when referring to this particular wording. I say again - it's so unusual that it just makes me think there may be some background to it's introduction. ETA. We had a recent meeting with a Letting Agent who is responsible for letting a number of properties on our estate. We were discussing covenants and he said the best thing was to incorporate them in their tenant agreements.
To be honest I've seen quite a lot of clauses (noise and otherwise) that, on closer inspection, bring up more questions than answers0 -
The contract doesn't say anything about the flooring.Thrugelmir wrote: »What does the lease say about wooden flooring I wonder? This is possibly a matter for the LL to address.0
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The contract doesn't say anything about the flooring.
your tenancy agreement is unlikely to say anything in relation to the flooring.
The issue of flooring is usually addressed if need be in the lease that is between your LL who is the leaseholder and the freeholder of the building.
It would be the LL's responsibility to comply with that element of the lease if it exists not necessarily yours.
Not all leases between leaseholder and freeholder have flooring clauses but some do.in S 38 T 2 F 50
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Sorry, I assumed they meant the tenancy contract.need_an_answer wrote: »your tenancy agreement is unlikely to say anything in relation to the flooring.
The issue of flooring is usually addressed if need be in the lease that is between your LL who is the leaseholder and the freeholder of the building.
It would be the LL's responsibility to comply with that element of the lease if it exists not necessarily yours.0 -
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Sorry, I assumed they meant the tenancy contract.
A fair number of leases ban wooden flooring and require fitted carpet. This is because of this noise issue. Your landlord will know what is in the lease. If the lease requires fitted carpet than this what should be in your flat not that wooden flooring.0 -
It's easy to forget that not everyone wants children. Not everyone wants to listen to screaming babies either.
Some people might call that selfish.
Some people might say expecting other people to just put up with other people's screaming kids and not utter a word of complaint is selfish.
I don't care what time your babies wake up. They are not my babies. Why should i wake up with you?
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He rents out 3 flats in the block, so I suspect he already knows whether he is in breach of the lease or not and the potential consequences. I'll definitely suggest carpeting the flat next time I talk to him, but I doubt he'll act upon it.A fair number of leases ban wooden flooring and require fitted carpet. This is because of this noise issue. Your landlord will know what is in the lease. If the lease requires fitted carpet than this what should be in your flat not that wooden flooring.0
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Haha, pouring fuel on the fire :rotfl:It's easy to forget that not everyone wants children. Not everyone wants to listen to screaming babies either.
Some people might call that selfish.
Some people might say expecting other people to just put up with other people's screaming kids and not utter a word of complaint is selfish.
I don't care what time your babies wake up. They are not my babies. Why should i wake up with you?
Discuss....0
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