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Leasehold restriction on pets

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  • Larac
    Larac Posts: 958 Forumite
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    I don't know about the setup of your flat - but most dogs need to be let out for a pee or poo - if you have a 'garden flat' then I can see it working with a dog. If not then you will be forever taken the dog out for a walk - as it get older and I own a 10 year old Goldie - it will be more frequent. I would consider all of that before I even thought of bringing a dog into the flat.
  • Flix21
    Flix21 Posts: 37 Forumite
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    I have a dog and cat, and live in a flat.
    In scotland, so no freehold but there is an agreement that no resident should have more than two pets.

    Having a dog and living in a flat is doable, depending on the dog and your circumstances. Not everyone locks a dog in their flat all day on its own. If you get consent, find the right dog and you’re fully committed then do it.
    Getting my dog is the best thing I’ve ever done and I love him to bits.
  • Flix21
    Flix21 Posts: 37 Forumite
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    ** sorry, meant to say no leasehold. Won’t let me edit my post.
  • Cakeguts
    Cakeguts Posts: 7,627 Forumite
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    Flix21 wrote: »
    I have a dog and cat, and live in a flat.
    In scotland, so no freehold but there is an agreement that no resident should have more than two pets.

    Having a dog and living in a flat is doable, depending on the dog and your circumstances. Not everyone locks a dog in their flat all day on its own. If you get consent, find the right dog and you’re fully committed then do it.
    Getting my dog is the best thing I’ve ever done and I love him to bits.


    They can't just do it because the rules in their flats are different to the ones in your flat. In your flat the rules allow pets just not more than two so people in your flats know that they are likely to be living with neighbours who have pets but not more than two and if they don't like that arrangement they either don't live there or move.



    In the case of the OP the rule is no pets if they are likely to cause a nuisance. A dog is likely to cause a nuisance and because of this rule the neighbours could reasonably expect to not to have to put up with dogs barking. If the OP gets a dog and it barks then the neighbours are being expected to put up with a noise that they never thought they would get. It is completely unreasonable to expect the neighbours to put up with a noise nuisance that they thought they would be protected against by the rules in their leases.



    In the case of the OP it is not a good idea to get a pet that could disturb the neighbours and that includes a dog. If they want a dog they need to move either to a flat that allows it or to a house. They shouldn't expect the neighbours to put up with what they want.
  • hazyjo
    hazyjo Posts: 15,476 Forumite
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    100% agree with Cakeguts. No comparison to a Scotland flat.


    I have known people with pets (dogs/cats etc) in flats. Not saying it can't be done ever, my friend had a much loved greyhound in a one large bed flat who was perfectly happy, but in this case it's not worth the risk. If you have to get a pet in a flat, make sure the lease allows it (with no clauses about getting rid if it's a nuisance to anyone in the block).
    2024 wins: *must start comping again!*
  • Jumblebumble
    Jumblebumble Posts: 2,109 Forumite
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    edited 25 November 2019 at 12:35PM
    Slithery wrote: »
    A dog may cause annoyance, therefore not allowed.
    Why would the leased bother to say anything beyond "no Dogs allowed " ?
    Our dog hardly ever barks although we live in a house
  • hazyjo
    hazyjo Posts: 15,476 Forumite
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    Why would the leased bother to say anything beyond "no Dogs allowed " ?
    Our dog hardly ever barks although we live in a house
    Because they're usually far more vague to say 'pets' or 'animals' - don't want people thinking they can't have a dog but will bring in a pygmy goat just because the lease didn't say they couldn't specifically have one living there.
    2024 wins: *must start comping again!*
  • wksd
    wksd Posts: 98 Forumite
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    We are in the same type of flat as you and rescued a puppy. Quite frankly, we didn't really care about the lease, the battle in itself would be so long and expensive and our freeholder is also known for being extremely crooked - our neighbours had no issue (tiny block) which we checked, all own the flats, so we decided to just do it.

    We know we are moving though in a short time so it wasn't a long term issue for us. We also would have given up the flat for the dog, dog is our priority like a child. We could have also hidden dog at my parents if it came to 'getting rid of the dog'.

    If you're options are there, i don't see an issue
  • Cakeguts wrote: »
    I find the entitled attitude that some people have these days very difficult to deal with. A dog in a flat has the possibility of become an absolute nightmare for the neighbours of the flat and also the dog itself and yet people want to look into what they want in owning one. Where has the consideration for others gone?



    Basically if you choose to live in a flat you are also choosing not to have pets like dogs. If you want to have a dog you buy a house with a garden that is suitable for a dog and before anyone jumps in and says that that is not possible for everyone because of cost there are areas of the country where you could buy a house. This is all down to choice. People choose to live and work in expensive areas. They choose to live in a flat in that area. What choice does the dog get? What choice do the neighbours get? The choice of the neighbours to live in flats where no one keeps pets could be destroyed.



    Lots of leases of flats have clauses about keeping pets especially dogs because of the noise they make. Flats and dogs don't mix.


    Dogs can cause a disturbance to neighbours wherever you live? Can't see why a flat is any different to a terraced house, or indeed even a detached house? Dogs living 5 houses away can cause a disturbance if they're left out in the garden barking all day.
  • Flix21
    Flix21 Posts: 37 Forumite
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    There seems to be quite a few pet haters on this forum.

    As I said, if the OP gets approval, can find the right dog suitable and is committed to its care for the rest of its days then she should go for it.

    If she finds a yappy barking dog, then it obviously wouldn’t be the right choice. Having a dog doesn’t mean you have to live in a detached in the middle of no-where.
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