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michaels

JKenH said:

Martyn1981 said:

TM3 reaches 6th place for US car sales Q1. Not bad considering it costs a lot more than the competition, shows that BEV demand exists, and promising news for the TMY which is in the higher demand SUV/CUV group.

Tesla Model 3 = 6th Best Selling Car in USA

The Tesla Model 3 isn’t done with the headlines, despite the Model Y’s review-grabbing arrival and the coronavirus pandemic we’re dealing with at the moment. Tesla has climbed the rankings of the top selling cars in the USA and placed the Model 3 on the 6th rung*. That’s up from 9th in 2019 as a whole, up from 13th in the 1st quarter of 2019, and up from 7th in the 4th quarter of 2019. [Update: There was an error in the data of the original article that put the Dodge Charger too high on the list. That has now been corrected.]

Interesting that CleanTechnica exclude pick ups and SUVs such as the Honda CRV from their calculations. If a similar policy was applied to UK registrations then Tesla would have been no.7 in the UK March figures. If we exclude hatchbacks (which like pick ups in the US) are the best selling private vehicles then the TM3 would I believe be no. 1.

What most surprised me in the SMMT figures was the growth in MHEVs in the UK in 2020 outstripping BEVs in both % and volume growth.

Aren't almost all new Toyotas now 'self charging hybrids'?

Martyn1981

JKenH said:

Martyn1981 said:

TM3 reaches 6th place for US car sales Q1. Not bad considering it costs a lot more than the competition, shows that BEV demand exists, and promising news for the TMY which is in the higher demand SUV/CUV group.

Tesla Model 3 = 6th Best Selling Car in USA

The Tesla Model 3 isn’t done with the headlines, despite the Model Y’s review-grabbing arrival and the coronavirus pandemic we’re dealing with at the moment. Tesla has climbed the rankings of the top selling cars in the USA and placed the Model 3 on the 6th rung*. That’s up from 9th in 2019 as a whole, up from 13th in the 1st quarter of 2019, and up from 7th in the 4th quarter of 2019. [Update: There was an error in the data of the original article that put the Dodge Charger too high on the list. That has now been corrected.]

Interesting that CleanTechnica exclude pick ups and SUVs such as the Honda CRV from their calculations. If a similar policy was applied to UK registrations then Tesla would have been no.7 in the UK March figures. If we exclude hatchbacks (which like pick ups in the US) are the best selling private vehicles then the TM3 would I believe be no. 1.

What most surprised me in the SMMT figures was the growth in MHEVs in the UK in 2020 outstripping BEVs in both % and volume growth.

Not just Cleantechnica, the sales are normally broken down into cars, suvs and trucks. This is covered further down in the article:

Note that the above ranking is just for cars. If you compare with all passenger vehicle models — SUVs and pickup trucks included — the Model 3 falls in the rankings to #19.

With regard to HEV's/MHEV's, that shouldn't be a surprise as the 2020 European legislation on fleet emissions is kicking in. So the choice of cars is now changing.

Martyn1981

michaels said:

JKenH said:

Martyn1981 said:

TM3 reaches 6th place for US car sales Q1. Not bad considering it costs a lot more than the competition, shows that BEV demand exists, and promising news for the TMY which is in the higher demand SUV/CUV group.

Tesla Model 3 = 6th Best Selling Car in USA

The Tesla Model 3 isn’t done with the headlines, despite the Model Y’s review-grabbing arrival and the coronavirus pandemic we’re dealing with at the moment. Tesla has climbed the rankings of the top selling cars in the USA and placed the Model 3 on the 6th rung*. That’s up from 9th in 2019 as a whole, up from 13th in the 1st quarter of 2019, and up from 7th in the 4th quarter of 2019. [Update: There was an error in the data of the original article that put the Dodge Charger too high on the list. That has now been corrected.]

Interesting that CleanTechnica exclude pick ups and SUVs such as the Honda CRV from their calculations. If a similar policy was applied to UK registrations then Tesla would have been no.7 in the UK March figures. If we exclude hatchbacks (which like pick ups in the US) are the best selling private vehicles then the TM3 would I believe be no. 1.

What most surprised me in the SMMT figures was the growth in MHEVs in the UK in 2020 outstripping BEVs in both % and volume growth.

Aren't almost all new Toyotas now 'self charging hybrids'?

Hopefully Toyota will stop using that lie soon. Norway has already told them to quit, and other countries are concerned that some folk may be misled.

Obviously BEV's are charged from leccy when plugged in, and HEV's are charged via the petrol they put in, as that is the source of the energy that might later be used to charge a battery via re-gen.

It seems that Toyota may be scraping the bottom of the barrel with their 'self charging' campaign, as they continue to resist a move to BEV's (outside of Chinese collaborations).

silverwhistle

EVandPV said:

SUV drivers face tax hike of up to £1,285 thanks to tough new emissions tests as Government bids to boost slow sales of expensive electric carhttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8186981/SUV-drivers-face-tax-hike-1-285-thanks-tough-new-emissions-tests.html

I commented on another thread how sad The Daily Telegraph was these days. The Times has also gone downhill - their headline for the above news, apologies for the slight paraphrase as I don't have it to hand, "due to feeble EV sales"..

Martyn1981

I think this is BEV news, in the sense that the US made VW pay out billions towards 'Electrify America', though I doubt our system will do similar, but it's nice to imagine how a VW funded additional subsidy on BEV's would speed up deployment. Plus of course, the negativity around these cheat devices has helped to encourage alternative ways to reduce car emissions.

VW installed 'defeat devices' to subvert emissions tests, high court finds

The car manufacturer Volkswagen subverted key air pollution tests, a British court has found, by using special software to reduce emissions of nitrogen oxides under test conditions.
The high court finding is a boost to attempts by campaigners to force the company to address the impact of its cars in producing lung-damaging pollutants at far higher levels than were legally permissible.
A group of about 91,000 claimants is taking Volkswagen to court in one of the biggest “class action” cases, or group litigation orders, yet to be heard in England and Wales. Although Volkswagen has been found guilty in the US, in Europe the carmaker has denied that it cheated tests.

Martyn1981

silverwhistle said:

EVandPV said:

SUV drivers face tax hike of up to £1,285 thanks to tough new emissions tests as Government bids to boost slow sales of expensive electric carhttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8186981/SUV-drivers-face-tax-hike-1-285-thanks-tough-new-emissions-tests.html

I commented on another thread how sad The Daily Telegraph was these days. The Times has also gone downhill - their headline for the above news, apologies for the slight paraphrase as I don't have it to hand, "due to feeble EV sales"..

OMG, you weren't kidding - "Petrol SUV owners face tax rise to boost feeble electric car sales".

Perhaps these papers are simply playing to their audience. Not all, but many oldies, especially men, don't like change, or even fear it with desperate paranoia. Hence all the nonsense and negativity towards new technology (RE, BEV's etc.) which the papers feel will be better received under confirmation bias, rather than challenging long held but factless opinions.

Even the premise of that headline is a lie, as electric car sales are anything but feeble. Yes they are new, but growing rapidly, and look to be breaking out into a true disruption, though admittedly, supply limited. I'd hope that most Times readers would understand the difference between 'feeble' and 'small but rapidly growing'. Those that don't, probably still hold Kodak and Blockbuster shares!

What's that ancient Chinese saying - "When the winds of change blow some people build walls, others build windmills."

Kind of ironic that we now live in a time where folk can quite literally be divided into 'Team Wall' and 'Team Windmill'.

And whilst Team Wall has a lot of old angry money behind it, Team Windmill has all the young money backing it. [Plus of course a lot of oldies like me, who are less angry and (purely co-incidental ;-)) not on the hard right.]

silverwhistle

Thanks for doing the search, I was feeling lazy. The Times used to be known as a paper of record, but that headline is a very good illustration of the opposite!

Martyn1981

Some March figures for the UK, with BEV's ~5%, and a statement that really jumped out at me - "March 2020 saw UK market share of plug-in electric vehicles reach a record 7.3%, close to 4× the result from March 2019." - but I suppose that is skewed by Tesla's 'lumpy' deliveries depending on when a ship arrives.

4,718 Tesla Model 3 Sales In March Help Push UK EV Market Share To Record 7.3%

March 2020 saw UK market share of plug-in electric vehicles reach a record 7.3%, close to 4× the result from March 2019. A huge 4,718 unit push from the Tesla Model 3 contributed almost half of all battery electric vehicle sales, and entered it into the overall top 10 best sellers list.
Electric vehicle sales comprised mainly pure battery electrics (BEVs), with a ratio of almost 2:1 over plug-in hybrids (PHEVs). The share of traditional plug-less hybrids (6%) fell slightly compared to 12 months ago, and plug-less mild-hybrids grew their share to 9%.

Martyn1981

Quick bits (or bites) of Tesla news that jumped out at me - tow hitch now available for the TMY and a meaty 3,500lb limit, the Shanghai factory delivered 10k TM3's in March, which suggests they may be close to their 3k/week target, and well before the end of the year, and it's releasing two new locally produced models, the long range, and the performance.

Martyn1981

Research launched to look at vehicle integrated solar:

Fraunhofer ISE Testing Vehicle-Integrated Solar Systems

Fraunhofer ISE is partnering with the Fraunhofer Institute for Transport and Infrastructure Systems and four trucking companies to develop vehicle-integrated solar systems that can help reduce carbon emissions from the transport industry. As part of the research, Fraunhofer ISE has equipped several trucks with sensors that record how much solar energy they are exposed to in real world use.
That research suggests for each square meter of surface area, 150 kWh of electricity can be generated each year. Translate that to the surface area of a typical cargo trailer — about 32 square meters — and the result is enough electricity to power an electric vehicle a distance of 5,000 kilometers or more a year.
Integrated solar for vehicles presents some challenges, particularly keeping the weight of such systems low to avoid reducing payload significantly. The target weight for commercial vehicles is no more than 2.2 kilograms per square meter. In addition, the systems must be robust enough to withstand the constant pounding trucks experience during normal use. The benefits of integrated solar include powering refrigeration units that normally use diesel generators and a potential auxiliary power source for electric delivery vans.