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Martyn1981

Solarchaser said:

But in my first day of owning the Tesla I didn't realise you had to press the release button on the dash, and for the life of me I couldn't get that !!!!!! to budge.

Hi. You may have found this already by now, but on your phone app under charging, you'll find 'unlock charge port', and when combined with 'open frunk' you can put the cable away without going into the car cabin.
PS - Have you tried the voice command - 'open butthole' yet?

JKenH

2021 Maserati GranTurismo to go EV-only – IC option ditched 

GranTurismo coupe and its soft-top GranCabrio sibling to be reborn later this year, 

but controversially without the proposed combustion alternative... 

https://www.evo.co.uk/maserati/203078/2021-maserati-granturismo-teased-new-gt-coming-with-bev-and-ic-powertrains

Solarchaser

Martyn1981 said

Solarchaser said:

But in my first day of owning the Tesla I didn't realise you had to press the release button on the dash, and for the life of me I couldn't get that !!!!!! to budge.

Hi. You may have found this already by now, but on your phone app under charging, you'll find 'unlock charge port', and when combined with 'open frunk' you can put the cable away without going into the car cabin.
PS - Have you tried the voice command - 'open butthole' yet?

I should perhaps explain a little.
The leaf was just a socket you plug into, and when done charging, you go to the charger and tell it to end charge.
On my first day of tesla I did the same, and instead if filled the screen with communication errors, and I couldn't get the cable out of the port.
I eventually seen the "unlock" tab on the screen, but it took far longer than I'm comfortable admitting.

I didn't have the phone connected at this point, so was still grumbling about the keycard halfway up the door... the phone as a key is just awesome. 

Anyway to answer your question,  no I didn't know, but my tool bag and laptop bag fit perfectly in the frunk,  so charging cables go under the subfloor in the boot.

I have to admit to not having tried to find any of the easter eggs yet, im intrigued by what that command does...
I did by accident put on the rainbow road, and now the kids ask for it every time.

Martyn1981

It opens the charge port for you - just more Tesla humour.

Popped to see some friends along the Welsh coast today. Thought (wrongly again) we'd see what the efficiency would be like in chill mode at around 70mph, but Wifey set the tone driving at about 80-85 down there, plus one friend trying out the 0-40/50 a few times, then my hunger on the return leg, 'forced' me to match Wifey's speed, so we only managed 268Wh/mile for 160 miles, but I don't think that's too bad, since around 3/4 was at those motorway speeds.

All driven on sunshine, so an export equivalent cost of £2.14, or 1.34p/mile.

Solarchaser

Yeah, it's funny, id never consider myself high brow, but I do find it a bit strange all the "juvenile" stuff in the Tesla.
My 10 year old loves it, especially the fart noises... but... I dunno.

I've checked my 600 miles and it's an average of 260wh, and thats a fair few "acceleration checks". 

A colleague who drives his in London is currently sitting at 204wh 😯

I've a round trip to London this week, so will see how the actual range works out in motorway. 
Planning on doing 100 miles of 60mph, 100 miles of 65mph and 100 miles of 70mph to see what the wh difference is.
That's the plan, but I have a feeling ill get bored sitting under 70, and so might just crack on instead. 

So far I've charged the Tesla entirely on free Glasgow chargers, (strangely I still charge the leaf on solar only, not sure why) but I got an email telling me that "charge your car" are no longer in charge of Scotland's network (I already knew this, I think maybe EVandPV posted this already) and are now going to be run by swarco,  and when you look at the address, it's actually BP, so I think this will be the end of free charging that Ken was linking to a couple of months ago.
They are heralding the end of the rfid card (£20/year) but nothing about the chargers remaining free, so I'd assume they won't.

Solarchaser

So I travelled the 400 miles to deepest darkest Englandshire today from brightest sunniest Scotlandshire. 🤪

What can I tell you about the Tesla, its a lying b'stsrd. There's no way you are getting 360 miles on UK roads unless you are driving about the fens at 50mph.

Electek report the 2021 long range 3 as having an 82kwh battery, well at 265 miles I'd used 65kwh and 91% of that when I pulled up to a supercharger.  When I plotted that charger it said I'd arrive at 2% (The next one was 40 miles, it was just too much of a risk to try) but I guess 15 miles of 50mph roadworks!!! Extended my range a bit (returned 204wh in the most boring road in the world).

That was 100 miles exactly at 65mph coming through Scotland (actually the most watt intensive part of the journey at 312wh took 15% of the battery,  just the first 30 miles going through the hills under central Scotland) and then 100 miles exactly at 70mph, and then an attempt to do 75mph, but the roads were too congested and several road works. (I'll try again on the way back up)

So if the car had 75kwh available it would do 300 miles, as the average for the whole journey, including a few ton plus chases was 250wh, but it doesn't have that available. 
I'd guess at just shy of 72kwh is available. 
So I'd say at a push I'd get to 280... maybe even 290.

And yeah im sure there is more there after the zero, but the car wasn't happy about the 7% I'd driven it to and avoiding potential damage, but meh, its there to be used as far as I'm concerned. 

A wee pic of the 144kw charge rate, which unfortunately had dropped to 50kw when I came back from visiting the services, likely due to the other 3 teslas that had plugged in to other stalls in that time.

Perhaps saying its a lying B is an overstatement,  in reality it handled 70, 75 and even 80 far better than 65 in Scottish hills, so the energy used to climb hills is what kills the range... im not sure that's a huge surprise, as the car is pretty aerodynamic. 

The adaptive cruise control is great, and made for a much calmer journey than normal.

It strikes me that it's actually a perfect car for stop start traffic as the cruise control brings it to a stop, and creeps when other cars move.

Grumpy_chap

Solarchaser said:

So I travelled the 400 miles to deepest darkest Englandshire today from brightest sunniest Scotlandshire. 🤪

What can I tell you about the Tesla There's no way you are getting 360 miles 

at 265 miles I'd used 65kwh and 91% of that when I pulled up to a supercharger.  

So I'd say at a push I'd get to 280... maybe even 290.

144kw charge rate, which unfortunately had dropped to 50kw when I came back from visiting the services, likely due to the other 3 teslas that had plugged in to other stalls in that time

Thanks for your post and very information figures.

In summary, you did 400 miles and only had to stop once.  How much time did that add to your journey over-and-above the stop you would have made in any event even with an ICE car for refreshment fill and empty (human refuel as opposed to car refuel)?

I don't think anyone really expects to achieve the test range of 360 miles any more than the test MPG can be achieved in an ICE.  Just shy of 300 miles real range motorway driving is adequate for anyone - 4 hours driving you should be having a break in that time for safety even if your bladder is particularly robust.

Hard to see many situations where that range will be insufficient. 

• London - Manchester = 209 miles
• Cambridge - Plymouth = 299 miles
• Cardiff - Snowdon = 167 miles
• Newcastle - Blackpool = 155 miles
• York - Edinburgh = 209 miles

Martyn1981

That got me thinking, as the route to Snowdon is stunning, and the fastest route (for me) is 155 miles, so could it be done, there and back on one charge? Possible perhaps, because it's a slow route (4hrs+), as is most driving in Wales, away from the coast or border. 
Hmm, no superchargers!

Coastalwatch

Martyn1981 said:

That got me thinking, as the route to Snowdon is stunning, and the fastest route (for me) is 155 miles, so could it be done, there and back on one charge? Possible perhaps, because it's a slow route (4hrs+), as is most driving in Wales, away from the coast or border. 
Hmm, no superchargers!

You could take a spare pack of Triple A's in case Mart!

Solarchaser

Grumpy_chap said:

Solarchaser said:

So I travelled the 400 miles to deepest darkest Englandshire today from brightest sunniest Scotlandshire. 🤪

What can I tell you about the Tesla There's no way you are getting 360 miles 

at 265 miles I'd used 65kwh and 91% of that when I pulled up to a supercharger.  

So I'd say at a push I'd get to 280... maybe even 290.

144kw charge rate, which unfortunately had dropped to 50kw when I came back from visiting the services, likely due to the other 3 teslas that had plugged in to other stalls in that time

Thanks for your post and very information figures.

In summary, you did 400 miles and only had to stop once.  How much time did that add to your journey over-and-above the stop you would have made in any event even with an ICE car for refreshment fill and empty (human refuel as opposed to car refuel)?

I don't think anyone really expects to achieve the test range of 360 miles any more than the test MPG can be achieved in an ICE.  Just shy of 300 miles real range motorway driving is adequate for anyone - 4 hours driving you should be having a break in that time for safety even if your bladder is particularly robust.

Hard to see many situations where that range will be insufficient. 

• London - Manchester = 209 miles
• Cambridge - Plymouth = 299 miles
• Cardiff - Snowdon = 167 miles
• Newcastle - Blackpool = 155 miles
• York - Edinburgh = 209 miles

Yeah I'd say that was accurate.
400 miles on roughly a tank and a half.
How much time did the stop add, yeah good question, maybe 5-10 mins of my indecision,  it was at 85% when I was ready to go(walked back to the car), but the supercharger was in direct sunlight, and I never left the aircon on, so when I came back It was roasting hot, so i put aircon on and waited 5-10 mins thinking... should I wait until it gets to 100%.... nah and at this point it was at 91% and so I unplugged and went.

And yeah to be honest I'd normally stop around 180-200 miles, I only went on because I wanted to see how far the car would go on that one charge. So really I think if I'd just charged at 200 miles and went again it would have been the same as the previous ice car.

Honestly I'd have been happier to see 300 miles, I never expected 360. I would have been content with 280... I'd I'd probably have reached that, but wasn't worth the risk