Is this legal?

reason2

i get the point... but i dont think anyone is bothered by the point existing.

i personally dont like it when my house mate says he is having vegan duck pancakes, or vegan chicken burger.

He is having neither, you cant have vegan chicken, its either chicken or it isnt, so hes having a vegan burger...

The OP is right in that if a vegan style salad was made, including salmon, vegans would not be happy, but love to tell us vegan chicken is better and makes them a better person to boot.

but like i say, i dont think anyone actually cares about the points existence. Its just down to personal feelings.

Besides, its 2019, you cant upset anyone because if you do it grants them 3 wishes and infinite special rights.

lammy82

ToxicWomble wrote: »

By that logic cheese can’t be called vegan cheese because cheese is classed as being made from dairy products
I would also say that the terms sausage and burger are also commonly understood to indicate meat in the ingredients.
So it’s ok for vegans to use carnivore descriptors but not for carnivores to use vegan descriptors.
I think this is what bugs people (including me) is the lack of consistency

'Vegan cheese' in this context means 'imitation cheese'. Fake, artificial, imitation, mock-cheese. Everyone understands that. It's a vegan version of a dairy product. Like 'veggie burger' basically means 'imitation burger' etc.

So what you're imagining is that once these vegan products have taken over the world and become the 'standard' thing for people to eat, someone is going to want to bring out a cheese made with milk, and name it after 'vegan cheese' so that people know what it's supposed to taste like. 'Milk-based imitation vegan cheese' or something. But the vegans wouldn't stand for that, and that's unfair and it bugs you.

OK :undecided

KittenChops

Mr_Singleton wrote: »

Could a restaurant sell a 'vegan style' carrot salad wih the carrot replaced with smoked salmon? They're both an orange colour after all.

Reason I ask is that over the past week or so I've been subjected to vegan 'meatballs vegan 'cheese' etc.

It would appear to be that vegans believe that sticking 'vegan' in front of of anything allows then to lie about ingredients. As such can an omnivor do the same with adding 'style' to lie about the contents of a vegan dish?

How have you been "subjected to vegan 'meatballs vegan 'cheese' etc." please?

Do you mean you've seen some, and that offended you? Or did you mean that you were forced (at gunpoint perhaps?) to eat some?

reason2

i think more importantly the vegan fad will die soon, like most fads.. once it loses it faux trendy image it will be less annoying.

Mr_Singleton

reason2 wrote: »

i think more importantly the vegan fad will die soon, like most fads.. once it loses it faux trendy image it will be less annoying.

All of the statistics I’ve found show that vegetarian/vegan lifestyles have been pretty stable for the last 20 years or so despite what certain groups with agendas to peddle claim. It also appears that around 85% of people give up on vegetarian/vegan diets/cults

Also interesting to see how the trendy vegan YouTube influencers have started disappearing. Who can forget Rawvana tearful apology to her millions of fans after being secretly filmed eating meat. Then there’s Stella Rae another outed vegan. There are loads more which isn’t of particular interest but what IS is the reasons everyone of them has given for giving up on a vegan lifestyle. You guessed it.... for health reasons!

Mr_Singleton

Manxman_in_exile wrote: »

I'm afraid you've made the fundamental error of attempting to apply common sense to this thread.

Nope, it shows the jaw dropping hypocrisy of it.

Omnivores being eminently reasonable allow vegans to masquerade carrot as salmon yet they don’t seem to like omnivores calling smoked salmon..... carrot.

Manxman_in_exile

Mr_Singleton wrote: »

Nope, it shows the jaw dropping hypocrisy of it.

Omnivores being eminently reasonable allow vegans to masquerade carrot as salmon yet they don’t seem to like omnivores calling smoked salmon..... carrot.

Ouch! Now you've pointed that out I need an Elastoplast for my chin. (Other sticking plasters are available).

George_Michael

Mr_Singleton wrote: »

Who can forget Rawvana tearful apology to her millions of fans after being secretly filmed eating meat. Then there’s Stella Rae another outed vegan.

I'm sure that most people reading this forum don't have a clue who Rawvana or Stella Rae are, let alone forget them.

waamo

George_Michael wrote: »

I'm sure that most people reading this forum don't have a clue who Rawvana or Stella Rae are, let alone forget them.

Never heard of them.

wishus

Y'all going to be very upset, but I have a very old Good Housekeeping recipe book at home with recipes for various fruit cheeses. Cheese is a word, doesn't have to mean dairy, it just commonly is. Apparently very handy thing to do when you have a 'glut of plums'. Missus.





Burger is the shortened form of Hamburger, from the German town Hamburg. Ham in this instance means town, and burg mountain. Neither the meat or non-meat version of a burger contains mountains. No your beefburger, sold to you as a hamburger, isn't flouting trading standards either as it is commonly understood not to contain ham. That will be your 'pulled pork' burger these days, which isn't even in a 'patty', the other word for burger.


Sausage comes from the Latin salsus meaning salted, and we seem to have got them from the Normans. It being a very old word, although it had its origins in the meat product, we have been using the word for centuries now to mean things of a particular shape. So a sausage doesn't have to be something you eat anymore, let alone made of meat, much to the relief of Daschunds.



I believe most manufacturers are moving away from the term 'meatballs' for veggie round things to go on pasta and either calling them ' meatless balls', or just 'balls'. May contain nuts.


So, if you find any derivative uses of words upsetting, it's probably best to go find a rock to live under as this happens to all language. And stay away from the internet and young people, cause they've got bare new words now, and it won't be very lit for you. I think it's quite peng though.



Mince pie, anyone? No, the meat one.