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HA planning CCTV to prevent flytipping - few tenants are doing this

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  • gary83
    gary83 Posts: 906 Forumite
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    m0bov wrote: »
    I'd only pay as long as I could see the footage for myself.

    Except with a section 20 the OP can’t place demands or conditions on whether or not he pays. How often do you think you’d be allowed to go and view your cameras
  • theartfullodger
    theartfullodger Posts: 15,870 Forumite
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    Pleased to hear HA is taking this seriously and planning on CCTV.

    Bet flytipping drops immediately
  • m0bov
    m0bov Posts: 2,771 Forumite
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    gary83 wrote: »
    Except with a section 20 the OP can’t place demands or conditions on whether or not he pays. How often do you think you’d be allowed to go and view your cameras

    They'd be Web based so you'd log in. If I was paying for CCTV, I'd want some advantage. In my old flat I put my own CCTV up, as I said before, its normally pointless as you can't see who's doing it and you are hoping the council or whoever, would take action.
  • m0bov
    m0bov Posts: 2,771 Forumite
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    theartfullodger wrote: »
    Pleased to hear HA is taking this seriously and planning on CCTV.

    Bet flytipping drops immediately

    If only it was that simple!
  • gary83
    gary83 Posts: 906 Forumite
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    m0bov wrote: »
    They'd be Web based so you'd log in. If I was paying for CCTV, I'd want some advantage. In my old flat I put my own CCTV up, as I said before, its normally pointless as you can't see who's doing it and you are hoping the council or whoever, would take action.

    You would have an advantage though, an area of your shared property that was suffering from fly tipping would be covered with cameras. I’d be very surprised if the council agreed to give all the residents access to the images. That would seem to be a GPDR/Privacy issue.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 0 Newbie
    gary83 wrote: »
    You would have an advantage though, an area of your shared property that was suffering from fly tipping would be covered with cameras. I’d be very surprised if the council agreed to give all the residents access to the images. That would seem to be a GPDR/Privacy issue.


    You could submit regular Subject Access Requests. That would keep them busy.


    Good old CCTV eh! The universal solution to all society's ills - not!
  • AdrianC
    AdrianC Posts: 42,189 Forumite
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    johnsmith1890 wrote: »
    You could submit regular Subject Access Requests. That would keep them busy.
    To what avail? You can see when you were caught on camera (other people's faces blanked)...
  • davidmcn
    davidmcn Posts: 23,596 Forumite
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    johnsmith1890 wrote: »
    You could submit regular Subject Access Requests. That would keep them busy.
    The OP and the other residents would of course end up paying for the extra admin.
  • WreckDiver
    WreckDiver Posts: 12 Forumite
    Someone please correct me if I am wrong but I am pretty sure what Section 20 cannot be used to make 'improvements.' Surely adding CCTV would be classed as an improvement. Of course if the CCTV already existed but stopped working for example then a section 20 could be used because it's maintaining what is already there. I would also think that they could not add the cost to the Service Charge for the same reason.
  • WreckDiver
    WreckDiver Posts: 12 Forumite
    Just to add, Section 20 can only be used for improvements if it says so in your Lease
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