I Am Not Chinese!!!!

elvis_bloggs

Yes Elvis was naturally blond and dyed his hair black all his show biz life, he did dye it back to it's natural colour for a film called "Kissin' cousins" where he played a double part.......just thought someone may be interested.

Quackers

Milky_Mocha wrote:

I frankly think people who don't acknowledge their origins are either ashamed of them or simply lack a bit of education. It is quite silly in my opinion that in spite of people stressing "where are you from originally?" he insisted "only" on being "English", particularly if he obviously looks Asian.

This is purely my opinion. Love it or hate it.

I neither love or hate your opinion - its yours and you're entitled to it

But he is English so why cant he insist he is?

My husband isn't ashamed of his origins and he doesn't 'lack a bit of education'. He was born in England and is English. His mother is English and his father originates from pakistan. He doesn't actually look 'asian'. He's just not as white as me! Most people think he's anything but half Pakistani :rolleyes: Its not that he's not acknowledging his origins - he just doesn't feel the need to explain to all and sundry who ask.

His sister has 2 children who have blonde hair and blue eyes - most people think she's adopted them just because they are so fair and sh'es a lot darker skinned. My children are almost as dark as my husband and I am very fair. We've often said we should swop kids :rotfl:

Quackers

chaching wrote:

p.s. this is totally irrelevant...but Elvis was born blond. Saw it in a documentary the other day!

:rotfl: Oooooooo, I'd have never have guessed that!

Totally irrelevant - but interesting

lswwong

Quackers wrote:

His mother is English and his father originates from pakistan.

Oh!!! Sounds like a gorgeous combination to me! Bet he is good-looking No I don't mean to pinch your hubby, ha ha!

Consider though, and pardon me for going off-topic, the colouring of Boris Becker's daughter, Anna. Her mum is half white Russian and half Cuban. Anna herself is fair.

Just shows what genetics/nature can do.

Quackers

lswwong wrote:

Oh!!! Sounds like a gorgeous combination to me! Bet he is good-looking No I don't mean to pinch your hubby, ha ha!

Consider though, and pardon me for going off-topic, the colouring of Boris Becker's daughter, Anna. Her mum is half white Russian and half Cuban. Anna herself is fair.

Just shows what genetics/nature can do.

Naaahhh, you wouldn't want him :rotfl:

It is amazing what nature can do - and oh my god doesn't that girl Anna look sooooooo much like Boris Becker :eek:

Trix

Someone from the South has just used the other 'typical' Geordie phrase to me on the phone today..'wey aye man'......yawn. Again, it is heard but not as regularly as thought. It's usually as an affectionite emphatic yes, as in 'are you sure it's OK?'..'yes'..'are you really sure it's OK?'..'wey aye man'. I don't personally use it though.

People tend to assess other people on the information they have based on their own personal experience. People 'assume' I'm Geordie because the accent from around here and slang terms used are similar and often the same. The experience they usually have of Geordies is like characters off Auf Wiedersen Pet, Ant and Dec, Shearer etc and so on hearing a similar accent, they use their personal frame of reference and make the assumption it is a Geordie one.

The only 'oriental' people I've met (and there are very few in this area) ARE Chinese so based on my experience, I would have ASSUMED anyone I met with the same characteristics WAS Chinese. Obviously now I have had it pointed out to me I have had a different experience and will learn from it though.

My brother and sister live in London so I visit there a bit and it is strange that people from that area make such a big deal about my accent and want to discuss as many differences between North and South (real or assumed) as possible (usually that lead them to declare the South is best....for EVERYTHING!). When anyone from there comes up to visit no one makes a big deal of the same things and just welcome them.

When they start with the 'say something Geordie', I humour them with some phrases then say 'now you say something Cockney - you lot are always saying 'I'll give you a bell on the dog and bone, going down the apples and pears wearing my whistle and toot for a cup of Rosie Lee' etc and they look at me like I'm mad and say 'It's only real Cockneys that talk like that, we're not from that area'. Oh reeeeaaally, so area DOES count then hmmm?

Again, it doesn't bother me that much, I just like to wind them up!

cougar_3

It's worth the guess that you're Chinese. If they make up 20% of the world's population, you're more likely to be Chinese than any other (individual) nationality. That goes for anybody - not just anyone looking Oriental - so hopefully you won't see it as a cheap racist joke!!

Don't know if you agree that class is a bigger divide than nationality?

Zziggi

I always thought calling someone 'Oriental' equated to calling someone ''coloured'' and both I understood to be policitcally incorrect. I thought the correct terms WERE 'chinese' and 'black'.

What i never can get my head round (as a British person) is when people from china/japan/the far east refer to themselves as Asian. To me Asia is India/Pakistan etc etc. But I am stuck as to what to call people from the ''far east'' if i don;t say chinese or oriental!

I also hate those ethnic monitoring forms too! I *think* as far as i know i am white european but i can't be 100% sure as parent's were adopted so I can't be sure where my ancestors came from. Probably got some 'foreigness' in me somewhere, like most of us if we dug too far in our background.

I am always having people ask me where i am from originally. I am muslim and it tends to be non-white muslims who questions me. Usually people of pakistani/arab/indonesian origin 1,2 or 3 gnerations ago who don;t accept it when i say "I'm English/British", they always say "yes, we all are but where are you from originally". They assume I'm Albanian/Bosnian :eek:
or even mildly arab. :eek: :eek: I can't say for certain that I aren't but i don;t *think* I am!

Although when my daughter was born, my (pakistani origins) friend did comment that my daughter looked more like a Pakistani than her own pakistani daughter!!

chaching

Zziggi wrote:

What i never can get my head round (as a British person) is when people from china/japan/the far east refer to themselves as Asian.

That's because the places China,Japan,the Far East are IN Asia. Same way anyone from France, Spain, Belgium might call themselves European. That might clear up any confusion you might have had.

System

Bargainbabe wrote:

I get annoyed when any person from any nationality tries to do a Brummy/Black Country accent.

Unless you are from there you will never get it right.

I hate it when i tell people i live near Dudley and they class me as a Brummie.:mad: I aint a brummie. Birmingham is 10 miles away.:mad: :mad:

I also hate a fake Black Country accent. It ay right.