Police fine - using phone

SHAFT

[quote=[Deleted User];76408601]AIUI he will not get the evidence before he has pleaded NG.[/QUOTE]

As said he may get a photo if it assists in identifying the driver.

SHAFT

TooManyPoints wrote: »

Yes, that's the way I read it. All the OP can do (if he has been asked to identify the driver, which we still don't know) is to ask for "photographs to help identify the driver". They don't have to provide them (in fact there may not even be any if he was observed by a police officer who pursued the matter) and it does not stop the clock on the 28 days he has to respond. The only time he will be sure of seeing evidence against him is if he refused a fixed penalty (if one is offered) and opts for a court hearing. Before then he will be served with the evidence the police intend to rely on to convict him in order that he might decide on his plea.

Unless the op is known to the police, he'd remember being stopped.

SHAFT

SallyDucati wrote: »

You can do a course for mobile phone offences - when I did a speed awareness course recently I met some people in the car park who were doing a mobile phone one at the same place.

How recently? You may want to double check.

Car_54

SHAFT wrote: »

Unless the op is known to the police, he'd remember being stopped.

There’s been no suggestion that he was stopped.

SHAFT

[quote=[Deleted User];76408699]There’s been no suggestion that he was stopped.[/QUOTE]

Exactly so how they know who was driving?

TooManyPoints

Unless the op is known to the police, he'd remember being stopped.

There’s been no suggestion that he was stopped.

I got the impression he had not been stopped at the time, especially as he has no recollection of the event. He may not have remembered using his phone whilst driving but I imagine he would recall being stopped.

AIUI he will not get the evidence before he has pleaded NG

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Yes he will, C54. Along with his notification of court proceedings (which will probably be a "Single Justice Procedure Notice") he will be served with the "Initial Details of the Prosecution Case". This will be basically the evidence intended to be used to secure a conviction. The idea is that he has all the information he needs to enable him to enter a plea at the first time of asking.

You can do a course for mobile phone offences

As far as I know almost all forces stopped offering courses for mobile phone offences when the fixed penalty went up from three to six points (in 2017 if I recall correctly).I believe Thames Valley continued offering them (whether they still do I don't know). I'm fairly certain the Met does not. "DriveTech - the firm who offer courses for many forces including the Met - does not offer a mobile phone course. The National Driver Offender Retraining Scheme does not mention a mobile phone course.

SallyDucati

SHAFT wrote: »

How recently? You may want to double check.

3 months ago so quite recent.

SallyDucati

TooManyPoints wrote: »

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As far as I know almost all forces stopped offering courses for mobile phone offences when the fixed penalty went up from three to six points (in 2017 if I recall correctly).I believe Thames Valley continued offering them (whether they still do I don't know). I'm fairly certain the Met does not. "DriveTech - the firm who offer courses for many forces including the Met - does not offer a mobile phone course. The National Driver Offender Retraining Scheme does not mention a mobile phone course.

Well Cheshire Police still do it, it was only 3 months ago that I met some people who were attending for one. I was taken aback tbh as I thought it wasn't possible as well.

TooManyPoints

Well Cheshire Police still do it, it was only 3 months ago that I met some people who were attending for one. I was taken aback tbh as I thought it wasn't possible as well.

Then that's very puzzling. The Cheshire Police website makes no mention of a course that might be offered for a mobile phone offence:

https://cheshire.police.uk/advice-and-support/roads-and-vehicle-safety/driving-courses/

In fact they specifically say that from March 1st 2017 such courses were no longer to be offered:

https://cheshire.police.uk/advice-and-support/roads-and-vehicle-safety/driving-mobile-phones/

SallyDucati

TooManyPoints wrote: »

Then that's very puzzling. The Cheshire Police website makes no mention of a course that might be offered for a mobile phone offence:

https://cheshire.police.uk/advice-and-support/roads-and-vehicle-safety/driving-courses/

In fact they specifically say that from March 1st 2017 such courses were no longer to be offered:

https://cheshire.police.uk/advice-and-support/roads-and-vehicle-safety/driving-mobile-phones/

Well as I said that's what people said they were attending for . It was on an business park though - possibly from Greater Manchester Police as the courses aren't police force specific??