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  • Y333moe
    Y333moe Posts: 52 Forumite
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    IN THE COUNTY COURT

    CLAIM No: xxxxxxxxxx

    BETWEEN:

    UK CAR PARK MANAGEMENT LTD (Claimant)

    -and-

    xxxxxxxxxxxx (Defendant)

    ________________________________________
    DEFENCE
    ________________________________________

    1. The Defendant denies that the Claimant is entitled to relief in the sum claimed, or at all.

    2. The facts are that the vehicle, registration XXXX, of which the Defendant is the registered keeper, was parked on the material date in a marked bay allocated to Company XXXX at Business Park in a visitor bay. Not on any yellow lines nor causing an obstruction.

    3. The Particulars of Claim does not state whether they believe the Defendant was the registered keeper and/or the driver of the vehicle. These assertions indicate that the Claimant has failed to identify a Cause of Action, and is simply offering a menu of choices. As such, the Claim fails to comply with Civil Procedure Rule 16.4, or with Civil Practice Direction 16, paras. 7.3 to 7.5. Further, the particulars of the claim does not meet the requirements of Practice Direction 16 7.5 as there is nothing which specifies how the terms were breached.

    4. Due to the sparseness of the particulars, it is unclear as to what legal basis the claim is brought, whether for breach of contract, contractual liability, or trespass. However, it is denied that the Defendant, or any driver of the vehicle, entered into any contractual agreement with the Claimant, whether express, implied, or by conduct.

    5. In addition to the 'parking charge', the Claimant has artificially inflated the value of the Claim by adding costs of £60 which has not actually been incurred by the Claimant, and which are artificially invented figures in an attempt to circumvent the Small Claims costs rules using double recovery.

    5.1 The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the defendant contracted to pay, This additional charge is not recoverable under the protection of freedoms act 2012, Schedule 4 not with reference to the judgement in parking eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover.
    5.2 This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4) of the civil procedure rules 1998 any party affected by this order has a right to apply to set it aside vary or stay it by application made not more than 7 days after this order was served upon the party.

    "The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the defendant contracted to pay, This additional charge is not recoverable under the protection of freedoms act 2012, Schedule 4 not with reference to the judgement in parking eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover,

    This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4) of the civil procedure rules 1998 "

    Claim number is F0DP201T District Judge Taylor
    Southampton Court, 10th June 2019

    6. Further and in the alternative, it is denied that the claimant's signage sets out the terms in a sufficiently clear manner which would be capable of binding any reasonable person reading them. They merely state that vehicles must be parked correctly within their allocated parking bay, giving no definition of the term 'correctly parked', nor indicating which bays are allocated to whom.

    7. The terms on the Claimant's signage are also displayed in a font which is too small to be read from a passing vehicle, and is in such a position that anyone attempting to read the tiny font would be unable to do so easily. It is, therefore, denied that the Claimant's signage is capable of creating a legally binding contract.

    7.1 At the time of the material events the signage was deficient in number, distribution, wording and lighting to reasonably convey a contractual obligation.
    7.2 The signage contained particularly onerous terms not sufficiently drawn to the attention of the visitor as set out in the leading judgment of Denning MR in J Spurling v Bradshaw 1956EWCA Civ 3
    7.3 The Defendant avers that the residential site that is the subject of these proceedings is not a site where there is a commercial value to be protected. The Claimant has not suffered
    loss or pecuniary disadvantage. The penalty charge is, accordingly, unconscionable in this context. It is denied that the Claimant has standing to bring any claim in the absence of a
    contract that expressly permits the Claimant to do so, in addition to merely undertaking parking management. The Claimant has provided no proof of any such entitlement.

    8. Even if the Court is minded to consider that the car did pass that sign, the terms of the sparse signage make no offer available; there is no licence to park.

    9. The Claimant is put to strict proof that it has sufficient interest in the land or that there are specific terms in its contract to bring an action on its own behalf. As a third party agent, the Claimant may not pursue any charge, unless specifically authorised by the principal. The Defendant has the reasonable belief that the Claimant does not have the authority to issue charges on this land in their own name, and that they have no right to bring any action regarding this claim.


    10. At best, parking without authorisation could be a matter for the landowner to pursue, in the event that damages were caused by a trespass. A parking charge cannot be dressed up by a non-landowner parking firm, as a fee, or a sum in damages owed to that firm for positively inviting and allowing a car to trespass. Not only is this nonsense, but the Supreme Court decision in ParkingEye Ltd v Beavis [2015] UKSC 67, confirmed that ParkingEye could not have pursued a sum in damages or for trespass.

    10.1. The Claimant has sent threatening and misleading demands which stated that
    further debt recovery action would be taken to recover what is owed by passing the
    debt to a ‘local’ recovery agent (which suggested to the Defendant they would be
    calling round like bailiffs) adding further unexplained charges of £25 to the
    £100 with no evidence of how this extra charge has been calculated.
    No figure for additional charges was 'agreed' nor could it have formed part of the
    alleged 'contract' because no such indemnity costs were quantified on the signs.
    Terms cannot be bolted on later with figures plucked out of thin air, as if they were
    incorporated into the small print when they were not.
    10.2. The Defendant also disputes that the Claimant has incurred £50 solicitor costs.
    10.3. The Defendant has the reasonable belief that the Claimant has not incurred £50 costs
    to pursue an alleged £100 debt.
    10.4. Notwithstanding the Defendant's belief, the costs are in any case not recoverable.
    10.5. The Claimant described the charge of £50.00 "legal fees" not "contractual costs".
    CPR 27.14 does not permit these to be recovered in the Small Claims Court.

    11. In summary, the Claimant's particulars disclose no legal basis for the sum claimed, and the Court is invited to dismiss the claim in its entirety.

    Statement of Truth:

    I believe that the facts stated in this Defence are true.

    Name
    Signature
    Date
  • Le_Kirk
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    Your points 5.1 & 5.2 seem to be a bit mixed up and are duplicated to some extent. Did you find the Abuse of Process thread by beamerguy?
  • 1505grandad
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    Para 3 - you state:-

    "The Particulars of Claim does not state whether they believe the Defendant was the registered keeper and/or the driver of the vehicle. These assertions indicate that the Claimant has failed to identify a Cause of Action, and is simply offering a menu of choices."

    should the (does not) be there? - the usual way to state this is (assuming the PoC does so state) is:-

    "The Particulars of Claim state that the Defendant was the registered keeper and/or the driver of the vehicle. These assertions indicate that the Claimant has failed to identify a Cause of Action, and is simply offering a menu of choices. As such, the Claim fails to comply with Civil Procedure Rule 16.4, or with Civil Practice Direction 16, paras. 7.3 to 7.5. Further, the particulars of the claim do not meet the requirements of Practice Direction 16 7.5 as there is nothing which specifies how the terms were breached."



    "7.3 The Defendant avers that the residential site that is the subject of these proceedings is not a site where there is a commercial value to be protected."

    - so the parking event is definitely "residential" because it is not clear
    from the previous draft Defences - despite requests asking for the details of the event?.

    Were you visiting a resident of the building? - is the resident a leaseholder or tenant?
  • Y333moe
    Y333moe Posts: 52 Forumite
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    I believe the abuse of process is this

    "The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the defendant contracted to pay, This additional charge is not recoverable under the protection of freedoms act 2012, Schedule 4 not with reference to the judgement in parking eye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover,

    This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4) of the civil procedure rules 1998 "

    Claim number is F0DP201T District Judge Taylor
    Southampton Court, 10th June 2019

    From beamerguy.

    It was on a residential site but I went to the shops there to pick up food.
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 152,631 Forumite
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    The wording is everything I wrote in post #14 of the thread by beamerguy. It covers & explains why they can't add £60 and you need to understand & use it.
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  • Y333moe
    Y333moe Posts: 52 Forumite
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    6 . Judges have disallowed all added parking firm 'costs' in County courts up and down the Country. In Claim number F0DP201T on 10th June 2019, District Judge Taylor sitting at the County Court at Southampton, echoed earlier General Judgment or Orders of DJ Grand, who (when sitting at the Newport (IOW) County Court in 2018 and 2019) has struck out several parking firm claims. These include a BPA member serial Claimant (Britannia, using BW Legal's robo-claim model) and an IPC member serial Claimant (UKCPM, using Gladstones' robo-claim model) yet the Orders have been identical in striking out both claims without a hearing, with the Judge stating: ''It is ordered that The claim is struck out as an abuse of process. The claim contains a substantial charge additional to the parking charge which it is alleged the Defendant contracted to pay. This additional charge is not recoverable under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4 nor with reference to the judgment in ParkingEye v Beavis. It is an abuse of process from the Claimant to issue a knowingly inflated claim for an additional sum which it is not entitled to recover. This order has been made by the court of its own initiative without a hearing pursuant to CPR Rule 3.3(4) of the Civil Procedure Rules 1998...''
    6.1 That is not an isolated judgment striking a parking claim out for repeatedly adding sums they are not entitled to recover. In the Caernarfon Court in Case number FTQZ4W28 (Vehicle Control Services Ltd v Davies) on 4th September 2019, District Judge Jones-Evans stated:
    ''Upon it being recorded that District Judge Jones-Evans has over a very significant period of time warned advocates [...] in many cases of this nature before this court that their claim for £60 is unenforceable in law and is an abuse of process and is nothing more than a poor attempt to go behind the decision of the Supreme Court v Beavis which inter alia decided that a figure of £160 as a global sum claimed in this case would be a penalty and not a genuine pre-estimate of loss and therefore unenforceable in law and if the practice continued he would treat all cases as a claim for £160 and therefore a penalty and unenforceable in law it is hereby declared [...] the claim is struck out and declared to be wholly without merit and an abuse of process.''

    i've added this from your post. What goes in [...]?
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 152,631 Forumite
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    What goes in [...]?
    Nothing, that symbol just shows that I've cut some words out from the quote and only quoted the relevant words.

    But that's not the entire wording I wrote, which also talks about the POFA and the Beavis case which are vital to show a Judge that added sums are not allowed as that would be an abuse of process and double recovery.

    You can't just throw the Caernarfon case and IOW case at it (as a Judge can ignore what another Judge said, and might not agree). You have to show WHY the £60 per PCN cannot be recovered and that's in Beavis and the POFA.
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  • Y333moe
    Y333moe Posts: 52 Forumite
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    Shall I add everything from your post #14?
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 152,631 Forumite
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    Seriously? Isn't this clear enough already?
    Coupon-mad wrote: »
    The wording is everything I wrote in post #14 of the thread by beamerguy. It covers & explains why they can't add £60 and you need to understand & use it.
    But that's not the entire wording I wrote, which also talks about the POFA and the Beavis case which are vital to show a Judge that added sums are not allowed as that would be an abuse of process and double recovery.

    You can't just throw the Caernarfon case and IOW case at it (as a Judge can ignore what another Judge said, and might not agree). You have to show WHY the £60 per PCN cannot be recovered and that's in Beavis and the POFA.
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  • Y333moe
    Y333moe Posts: 52 Forumite
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    Sorry dont get me wrong here. I'm trying to get it right as it's my first time. You guys are the experts here and just trying to get your help.
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