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VCS Debt collection

Hi
I have received a third letter from VCS demanding a £160 fine and that the fine has been allocated to the debt management team. I ignored the previous 2 letters and missed the window to appeal as I was away and did not see the letters on time.
I have read the newbies thread and understand that my 2 options are to ignore it or send a robst response. However, I have one point of confusion here: I'm not sure if the debt is handled by a separate firm such as Debt Recovery plus or is it from VCS themselves. The letter says that it is from the debt management team in VCS, and there is no mention of DRP at all.
So, my question is, what does this mean, and if I was to respond, would this change how I write the letter.
Any help on the matter would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks!
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  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 42,872 Forumite
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    VCS seem to be handling this themselves. As it appears to be a debt collection letter at the moment, forum advice is to ignore, as anything you write to them (apart from a cheque for £160) will have no positive effect.

    Your appeal options are dead (unless you can get a landowner cancellation), so you just have to wait to see if VCS issue a Letter of Claim and/or court proceedings. Come back on this thread if they do. They have 6 years to pursue you to court.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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  • The_Deep
    The_Deep Posts: 16,830 Forumite
    edited 10 October 2019 at 5:15PM
    It is not a fine. It is an invoice from an ex-clamper for damages for the harm they allege you inflicted on them when you did what you did. Pay them not one penny unless a judge so orders it.

    Nine times out of ten of these tickets are scams so consider complaining to your MP. Parliament is well aware of the MO of these private parking companies, many of whom are former clampers, and on 15th March 2019 a Bill was enacted to curb the excesses of these shysters. Codes of Practice are being drawn up, an independent appeals service will be set up, and access to the DVLA's date base more rigorously policed, persistent offenders denied access to the DVLA database and unable to operate. Hopefully life will become impossible for the worst of these scammers, but until this is done you should still complain to your MP, citing the new legislation. http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2019/8/contents/enacted Just as the clampers were finally closed down, so hopefully will many of these Private Parking Companies
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • beamerguy
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    Gooner231 wrote: »
    Hi
    I have received a third letter from VCS demanding a £160 fine and that the fine has been allocated to the debt management team. I ignored the previous 2 letters and missed the window to appeal as I was away and did not see the letters on time.
    I have read the newbies thread and understand that my 2 options are to ignore it or send a robst response. However, I have one point of confusion here: I'm not sure if the debt is handled by a separate firm such as Debt Recovery plus or is it from VCS themselves. The letter says that it is from the debt management team in VCS, and there is no mention of DRP at all.
    So, my question is, what does this mean, and if I was to respond, would this change how I write the letter.
    Any help on the matter would be greatly appreciated!
    Thanks!

    Oh dear, VCS still sending out rubbish. That fake extra £60 is abuse of process and recently they were kicked out of court for abuse of process

    You must read this about ABUSE OF PROCESS
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6014081/abuse-of-process-district-judge-tells-bwlegal

    See coupon-mad's post #14 where you can see your defence against VCS for abuse of process, you can copy it

    Then see the case struck out by the court where VCS were spanked
    4th September 2019
    VCS CASE STRUCK OUT FOR ABUSE OF PROCESS
    Read post # 105 on this thread
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6014081/abuse-of-process-district-judge-tells-bwlegal
  • The_Deep
    The_Deep Posts: 16,830 Forumite
    Nine times out of ten of these tickets are scams so consider complaining to your MP, it can cause the scammer extra work.

    Parliament is well aware of the MO of these private parking companies, many of whom are former clampers, and on 15th March 2019 a Bill was enacted to curb the excesses of these shysters. Codes of Practice are being drawn up, an independent appeals service will be set up, and access to the DVLA's date base more rigorously policed, persistent offenders denied access to the DVLA database and unable to operate.

    Hopefully life will become impossible for the worst of these scammers, but until this is done you should still complain to your MP, citing the new legislation.

    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2019/8/contents/enacted

    Just as the clampers were finally closed down, so hopefully will many of these Private Parking Companie
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • Thank you very much

    Complaining to my MP sounds like a good idea so thanks! What exactly would I say to her?
    Is there a particular part of the legislation that I can quote to my MP? (sorry it doesn't make too much sense to me when I read it!)
  • Thank you very much for your response
    The abuse of process case seems interesting and makes a very solid case. Would you advise sending them an email arguing this now?

    Thanks,
  • BrownTrout
    BrownTrout Posts: 2,298 Forumite
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    just wait for the letter before claim/claim to come., sending an email to the debt recovery team will have no effect what so ever.
  • I have received a letter before claim from VCS saying I have until 1/12/19 to pay up otherwise they will begin court proceedings. It states that I owe the full £160, plus a £25 court fee, plus any fees incurred in court.
    What is the best course of action to take now? I really need to avoid this going to court as I have too much going on at the moment!
    Thank you!
  • KeithP
    KeithP Posts: 41,218 Forumite
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    You now need to be following the guidance offered in the first few paragraphs of post #2 of the NEWBIES thread.
  • Yep, I have followed that, and have sent a Subject Access Request to the correct email, as well as another email asking them to halt the evidence and put their case on hold.
    Is it now just a case of waiting until the claim, and then I will have to create a defence?
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