overtaking car hit me

DoaM

[quote=[Deleted User];76368039]Can you find any examples of a highway authority erecting red-signal 20 signs wthout a TRO?[/QUOTE]

No, and I've no intention to go looking either. I was merely educating the poster about the usual discussion that happens when 20 limits are mentioned.

seatbeltnoob

People, can we not get into as 20mph enforceability debate. open a new thread if you want to argue backwards and forwards about it.



I am surprised the other cars insurance is going for 50/50. Their driver is clearly driving dangerously, he shouldn't have been doing a double overtake on a single lane road going in hot pursuit of the van.


Whether you swerved or not is beside the point, also why would you swerve and what evidence does he have to suggest that?


Why would you swerve out on a single lane road onto oncoming traffic.


Threads like this remind me I need to buy and install a dashcam

DoaM

We don't know what exactly the other party has told his insurer. You've based your response purely on the OP's story. If he's said that the OP swerved into him as he was passing then in the absence of other evidence it would likely go 50:50.

If the OP has supporting evidence then he'll likely win.

popeye4th

I've uploaded video to YouTube https://youtu.be/A5fjEdO4ZRA
im in silver car he's in black one. he's chasing the van that flys past first.

DoaM

Can any vehicle reg numbers be seen on the video? (If not then the other party may deny that this video relates to the incident).

You should still use it as evidence though, especially if you can get a statement from the driver of the white van travelling in the opposite direction.

AdrianC

popeye4th wrote: »

I've uploaded video to YouTube https://youtu.be/A5fjEdO4ZRA
im in silver car he's in black one. he's chasing the van that flys past first.

There's definitely a contributory failure to react on your part there.

Don't your brakes work? Or your steering wheel? You had plenty of opportunity to avoid that - it almost looks as if you were trying to push him into the oncoming van.

Van, 0:08


Front bumpers just coming into frame, top right - the black car is ever so slightly ahead, 0:09


A second or so later, 0:10sec


In the two car lengths or more between you both entering the frame and the near-impact, the black car gained about half a car length on you - ~25% further, so if you were doing 20mph (9 metres per second - basically two car lengths per second, or roughly what's visible in the frame), he was doing about ~25% faster, 25ish. The van's doing a similar speed. If anything, you're further right on the road than the van was.

Highway Code stopping distance from 20mph is 12m - 6m thinking, 6m stopping.

Assuming both were doing constant speed, he must have pulled out to pass you at least 20-25m before you both enter the frame. You had PLENTY of time to avoid that getting so close to being a very nasty collision, and the actual outcome is about the least-worst that was possible, more by luck than judgement.

SHAFT

That video isn't going to help much.

popeye4th

DoaM wrote: »

Can any vehicle reg numbers be seen on the video? (If not then the other party may deny that this video relates to the incident).

You should still use it as evidence though, especially if you can get a statement from the driver of the white van travelling in the opposite direction.

i followed him got a picture of his car.

popeye4th

AdrianC wrote: »

There's definitely a contributory failure to react on your part there.

Don't your brakes work? Or your steering wheel? You had plenty of opportunity to avoid that - it almost looks as if you were trying to push him into the oncoming van.

when the white van overtaken me i looked at him thinking #$%$ head but because the black car was tailgating him i never seen him until he hit me and if you watch in slow motion i pull up to the left just as i reach the parked car on the left. i did steer towards the path but if id of gone too far i would of hit the parked car.

AdrianC

popeye4th wrote: »

...but because the black car was tailgating him i never seen him until he hit me

Too busy getting irate at the van to look at your mirrors... Even though there's a very strong chance that somebody driving like a prat is probably not doing so in isolation.

And a CCTV camera further down the road would have shown three people doing so - the van, the car chasing him, and the car chasing him... Right?

and if you watch in slow motion i pull up to the left just as i reach the parked car on the left. i did steer towards the path but if id of gone too far i would of hit the parked car.

I'm talking about before impact.

Once he's hit you, it's a bit late to try to avoid the impact, isn't it?