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Parking space issue
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Face to face with who? You said earlier you requested the fob by email.
I'm probably done tbh. I've given my opinion as to where I think you can be liable, it's in the response to your request for the fob. They may have emailed you attaching Ts and C's or referred you to a website or even stated terms in the narrative but I can't read it from here.
If it was genuinely a face to face chat with some kind of concierge and they said "here have a key, use it how you like" and there was no signage at the concierge desk or in or around the car park then it sounds uneforceable.0 -
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devi123 requested a key to allow them to access the parking area to park their car.
A key was provided.
A request for costs was made with no response.
Under English Contract Law, any costs involved should have been made clear at the time of the request for a key.
In not doing so, the LL has, in the eyes of the Law, concluded the contract with the handing over of the key. Any charges now claimed are not therefore part of the original contract.
Under ECL once signed (or in this case, concluded by the delivery of the key) a contract cannot be amended or added to, which is what is happening by sending a bill for the charges.
Therefore my response to the LL would be as follows -
Sir,
with respect of the recent bill of £2,000 for the parking of my vehicle within the gated area.
As no costs were mentioned either at the time of my request, or at the handing over of the key, I consider these to be an addition to the original contract and thus not appliccable under English Contract Law.
Regards,
Devi123Never Knowingly Understood.
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Thanks Patman.
My concern is then that it becomes a case of who said what if it progresses - they will say they told me and I will argue they didn’t. I guess then it is supporting evidence that would decide anything.0 -
The facts as I see them. Please correct me if I’m wrong.
1. You knew there was a cost for parking space because you rented part of another tenants parking space for your motorbike rather than just asking for a fob from the management company.
2. You parked your bike correctly in the space you were renting from another tenant
3. You also used the fob you’d got from the other tenant so that you could park your motorbike to let yourself / your girlfriend in with a car to park in a space you hadn’t paid anyone for.
4. You therefore definitely know that you were using a space you shouldn’t have been using without paying for it and the management company have evidence of it from their CCTV.
The legal aspect of this I’ve got no idea about, but if it does go to court then the Judge will quite clearly be able to see you’ve been using something you knew you had no right to use and avoiding paying for the service. You’ll quite possibly get the other tenant into trouble for sub-letting their space and giving out their access fob to people who shouldn’t have it depending on what the contract they’ve signed says. This could possibly mess things up for the others who are part renting his space for their motorbikes.
You know you were in the wrong, the management company know you were in the wrong and a judge will know you were in the wrong too.
If it was me I’d just pay up and own your responsibilities rather than continue to try and word your way out of this.0 -
You have two options.
Either pay them money or
Ignore their requests. Wait and see if they take you to court. County Court / Small Claims is not predictable. You've got yourself into a mess and no-one can tell you how a judge would rule in this case.
Don't try to argue with them, this could get you into trouble. Simply deny the debt and wait for a letter before actionChanging the world, one sarcastic comment at a time.0 -
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The fact that OP paid another tenant for a motorbike space for a time is not relevant - he is paying a private individual and this has no bearing on whether this individual had to pay for the underlying motorbike space. It doesn’t confer that parking spaces are rented.
As I understand it, the fob was requested to access this space so was not a request for a car space. Probably unwise to then start using another space for the car without confirming if there are any costs, because you don’t know if it’s a communal space or belongs to somebody else, but all you can do is ask....0 -
Coming back to your OP. Can you scan and post the "bill" and agreement here, redacted.0
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The fact of the matter is that the op requested a key fob to allow him to park a car in the secure garage. At that point, the LL should have made him aware of any charges. This did not happen.
No breakdown of charges was included with the key fob, therefore the op enquired and received no reply, therefore he assumed that no charges existed.
As no outlay of charges were mentioned at the intial enquiry or when the fob was handed to the op, then any attempt to impose charges after the contract was concluded (by the handing over of the fob), then the bill is supufluous.Never Knowingly Understood.
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