Disciplinary Meeting Dismissal or Resign

Joquan

Hi all,

So I've been working for a very large company for 3 years and I've been off on suspension for a week now and just got a letter for a disciplinary meeting. The letter has allegations against me are for money I had received without my knowledge when I'd returned products over a period of a few months amounting to a few hundred pound.

I honestly didn't know about this and I was quite shocked when I was interviewed and the whole process was overwhelming as I had two people shouting at me, one of which was meant to be a 3rd party not getting involved just listening making sure the interview was fair.

I'm all for making this right and returning the funds given to me by mistake, I'd rather not have a dismissal on my record for this incident. I've looked at posts and I've seen a mixed bag of reasons for against resigning or continuing and fighting out the disciplinary process in the interview.

From what I can tell the colleagues that served me are at fault here as they've keyed in the wrong refund amount and given me more than what I had originally paid as I always show a receipt when being served. I also know of someone who was previously alleged with stealing in the company that walked into their disciplinary meeting and resigned there on the spot with no further action. People I've spoken to say resigning makes me look guilty others say it's the best thing to do, just want some advice on what would be best in my scenario.

Do I,
a) Attend the disciplinary and fight my case as there's no evidence for me asking colleagues to do higher priced refunds, they've keyed in the wrong amount.
b) Go to disciplinary meeting, offer to pay back the funds I've received and resign effective immediately or with one weeks notice per my contract/come to an agreement or sorts.
c) Go to disciplinary meeting, resign with immediate effect.

Any advice would greatly be appreciated!

Joquan

Also to add, if I do resign would/could they take legal action by calling the police or taking me to court over the allegations since it seems to me as though they're painting it as I've stolen from them?

custardy

Joquan wrote: »

Hi all,

So I've been working for a very large company for 3 years and I've been off on suspension for a week now and just got a letter for a disciplinary meeting. The letter has allegations against me are for money I had received without my knowledge when I'd returned products over a period of a few months amounting to a few hundred pound.

I honestly didn't know about this and I was quite shocked when I was interviewed and the whole process was overwhelming as I had two people shouting at me, one of which was meant to be a 3rd party not getting involved just listening making sure the interview was fair.

I'm all for making this right and returning the funds given to me by mistake, I'd rather not have a dismissal on my record for this incident. I've looked at posts and I've seen a mixed bag of reasons for against resigning or continuing and fighting out the disciplinary process in the interview.

From what I can tell the colleagues that served me are at fault here as they've keyed in the wrong refund amount and given me more than what I had originally paid as I always show a receipt when being served. I also know of someone who was previously alleged with stealing in the company that walked into their disciplinary meeting and resigned there on the spot with no further action. People I've spoken to say resigning makes me look guilty others say it's the best thing to do, just want some advice on what would be best in my scenario.

Do I,
a) Attend the disciplinary and fight my case as there's no evidence for me asking colleagues to do higher priced refunds, they've keyed in the wrong amount.
b) Go to disciplinary meeting, offer to pay back the funds I've received and resign effective immediately or with one weeks notice per my contract/come to an agreement or sorts.
c) Go to disciplinary meeting, resign with immediate effect.

Any advice would greatly be appreciated!

A crosses into B.
Monies are still due if you were over 'paid'.
If innocent then I would be fighting my corner.

Joquan

custardy wrote: »

A crosses into B.
Monies are still due if you were over 'paid'.
If innocent then I would be fighting my corner.

That's what I've been thinking since I believe I am innocent in this case and I feel like fighting my corner is best.

Should I start out by offering an agreement by paying back the overpaid money and resign/any other agreement they put forward? Or wait till the end of the meeting to put the offer forward?

custardy

Joquan wrote: »

That's what I've been thinking since I believe I am innocent in this case and I feel like fighting my corner is best.

Should I start out by offering an agreement by paying back the overpaid money and resign/any other agreement they put forward? Or wait till the end of the meeting to put the offer forward?

I would deal with the disciplinary.
forget repayments until that is clarified.

Blatchford

I'm sorry, but you aren't going to like this answer.

You seriously want your employer to believe that somebody else, multiple people, accidentally refunded you lots more money than was your due, on multiple occasions, and you didn't notice? It may be true, but it's not really credible. You'll need a much better explanation than that. Offering to return the money you've had still doesn't make that credible. Of course, they'll think, you're offering the money back now you've been caught. So if you were handed cash, you would have noticed there was too much? If it went into your bank account, surely you'd have noticed incorrect amounts on multiple occasions? What about the receipts for the refund - that's normal whenever I get refunds - didn't You look at them? You need to be able to explain how you could possibly not have known about the incorrect amounts on multiple occasions. One error is possible, but several sounds, well, again not very credible.

However, resign or fight is irrelevant. The employer can, and may very well, disclose that you resigned whilst facing allegations of a serious nature that amounted to gross misconduct. Resigning may stop the disciplinary action, but it doesn't remotely leave you in the clear.

Sea_Shell

Did you realise you'd been overpaid at the time? Surely if you've paid £X and go to return it... you'd expect £X back.

Did you not raise a query at the time?

Are we talking £5 or £50?

*** Crossed post!! ***

Blatchford

Sea_Shell wrote: »

Did you realise you'd been overpaid at the time? Surely if you've paid £X and go to return it... you'd expect £X back.

Did you not raise a query at the time?

Are we talking £5 or £50?

*** Crossed post!! ***

According to what the poster says, we are talking about multiple times it happened and £100's. Not one amount on one occasion.

Joquan

Sea_Shell wrote: »

Did you realise you'd been overpaid at the time? Surely if you've paid £X and go to return it... you'd expect £X back.

Did you not raise a query at the time?

Are we talking £5 or £50?

*** Crossed post!! ***

I realized one time that I'd been overpaid on an item about a week after and this was by £100 which I know is a lot. Due to the fact of it I didn't know if telling a manager would result in the employee losing their job or facing a consequence because of it, it was a mistake that she made.

ohreally

On how many occasions have refunds taken place and how many individuals have been involved?

Joquan

Blatchford wrote: »

I'm sorry, but you aren't going to like this answer.

You seriously want your employer to believe that somebody else, multiple people, accidentally refunded you lots more money than was your due, on multiple occasions, and you didn't notice? It may be true, but it's not really credible. You'll need a much better explanation than that. Offering to return the money you've had still doesn't make that credible. Of course, they'll think, you're offering the money back now you've been caught. So if you were handed cash, you would have noticed there was too much? If it went into your bank account, surely you'd have noticed incorrect amounts on multiple occasions? What about the receipts for the refund - that's normal whenever I get refunds - didn't You look at them? You need to be able to explain how you could possibly not have known about the incorrect amounts on multiple occasions. One error is possible, but several sounds, well, again not very credible.

However, resign or fight is irrelevant. The employer can, and may very well, disclose that you resigned whilst facing allegations of a serious nature that amounted to gross misconduct. Resigning may stop the disciplinary action, but it doesn't remotely leave you in the clear.

In total I believe there was 4 over payments, all the transactions went into my bank and I'm not one to check my online banking. The receipts I've never checked since I trust the colleagues I work with are giving the right amount back to me as we're all quite good work friends. I know that it doesn't really sound credible but it's the honest truth.

I said in the last post I did notice one transaction the last one a week or so before I was interviewed and I said that I had noticed this but didn't know what action to take because I feared the colleague losing their job.