Disciplinary Meeting Dismissal or Resign

Joquan

ohreally wrote: »

On how many occasions have refunds taken place and how many individuals have been involved?

From the interview I was in they mentioned 4 occasions and 3 members of staff.

Blatchford

Joquan wrote: »

From the interview I was in they mentioned 4 occasions and 3 members of staff.

Sorry, but the only outcome I can foresee here is all of you being sacked. It sounds very much like a conspiracy. 4 occasions, 3 members of staff (+ you?) and overpaid refunds of £100's... As for the police, yes, if they take the same view, then that would be quite possible. And I am really struggling to find any other view to take. Certainly, based on just your own side of the story, it would be quite reasonable in law for the employer to dismiss.

Joquan

Blatchford wrote: »

Sorry, but the only outcome I can foresee here is all of you being sacked. It sounds very much like a conspiracy. 4 occasions, 3 members of staff (+ you?) and overpaid refunds of £100's... As for the police, yes, if they take the same view, then that would be quite possible. And I am really struggling to find any other view to take. Certainly, based on just your own side of the story, it would be quite reasonable in law for the employer to dismiss.

I understand where you are coming from and I know it doesn't look good at all for myself. If the outcome is just myself getting sacked I will suck it up and take it. If I am to get sacked would that usually just be the end of it? My main priority is not getting the police involved, from some articles it seems like usually the company will only take it to the police/legal action if you resign or don't attend the hearings?

nicechap

Without naming the company, what industry are you in? I'm imagining construction or maybe something more specific like plumbing? There's not many employers who expect their employees to buy goods in order to do their work, and then on occasion return unused/ wrong goods for a refund.

Can you explain what is the usual process for claiming these purchases and what is the refund process and how you get the money in both situations? Can you also clarify whether these processes have been explained properly to you and whether they are set out in any document or process?

If these instances are genuine mistakes, then personally I would co-operate fully and offer to pay back anything incorrectly not refunded (sorry about the double negatives) once everything had been fully investigated and proved.

Presumably your union rep is accompanying you to the disciplinary meeting.

Sea_Shell

I'd assumed Retail of some sort. Buy loads of stuff, return it later, get colleague to bang through a few extra quid, bob's your uncle!!! (until he's banged up in jail!!)

Seriously. Sorry, but once you spotted the error, and then did nothing, that makes you complicit in the fraud/theft.

Finally, this is MSE, we should all be checking our statements carefully...it's in the MSE Bible isn't it!!?? Rule 1.

nicechap

Joquan wrote: »

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From what I can tell the colleagues that served me are at fault here as they've keyed in the wrong refund amount and given me more than what I had originally paid as I always show a receipt when being served.

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Sea_Shell wrote: »

I'd assumed Retail of some sort. Buy loads of stuff, return it later, get colleague to bang through a few extra quid, bob's your uncle!!! (until he's banged up in jail!!)

Seriously. Sorry, but once you spotted the error, and then did nothing, that makes you complicit in the fraud/theft.


Finally, this is MSE, we should all be checking our statements carefully...it's in the MSE Bible isn't it!!?? Rule 1.

Ahh, my mistake, I think you're right, I re-read the OP and see they've received more than they paid for the returned items, hence the fraud is against the shop rather than a third party employer.

Puts a quite different slant on things.

marlot

Sea_Shell wrote: »

I'd assumed Retail of some sort. Buy loads of stuff, return it later, get colleague to bang through a few extra quid, bob's your uncle!!! (until he's banged up in jail!!)...

I'd assumed bought with some kind of employee discount, then refunded at full price.

I'd expect the other employees to be disciplined too.

pinkshoes

Joquan wrote: »

I realized one time that I'd been overpaid on an item about a week after and this was by £100 which I know is a lot. Due to the fact of it I didn't know if telling a manager would result in the employee losing their job or facing a consequence because of it, it was a mistake that she made.

THIS is what will cost you your job...

You knew about the over payment of a refund but chose to do nothing.

4 occasions with three different members of staff??

It is peculiar enough returning so much stuff but not checking you got refunded? This whole thing screams of scam.

Make sure you name and shame the people who served you in your meeting as they need sacking/disciplinary too.

kanosam

This is gross misconduct.., you should have noticed the over payment and reported it straightaway!

Exodi

Curious how the people these freak 'accidents' happen to always seem to never check their banks

/shrug

Resignation or not; if this is a high street retailer, I'd imagine they will take you to court regardless. Bit of a bummer for you as I'd imagine you was splitting the overpayment with your colleagues and now you may have to pay everything back... maybe that why you're willing to throw them all under the bus?