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p00hsticks

thepurplepixie wrote: »

Of course the difference is that men always knew their pension was going to be 65 and the largest increase was one year with decades of notice.

For the record, they didn't have 'decades of notice' - the rise to 66 was intorduced in the Pension Act 2011, has already started and is due to be completed by October 2020.

thepurplepixie wrote: »

Personally I think if the 53/54 women had a campaign they would get much more support as they have a much stronger case that other 50s women. They might lose anyway but it would be more interesting and if they won it would be cheaper:T

But they did have a campaign at the time the legislation was going through parlaiment in 2010, and they didn't get much support because there weren't many of them. They did succeed in getting the 2011 timetable slowed so that maximum further increase was 18 months but that was it.

It's only later when larger numbers of 1950's born women saw a potential opportunity to get their snouts in the trough that the WASPI campaign started to take off.....

thepurplepixie

p00hsticks wrote: »

For the record, they didn't have 'decades of notice' - the rise to 66 was intorduced in the Pension Act 2011, has already started and is due to be completed by October 2020.



But they did have a campaign at the time the legislation was going through parlaiment in 2010, and they didn't get much support because there weren't many of them. They did succeed in getting the 2011 timetable slowed so that maximum further increase was 18 months but that was it.

It's only later when larger numbers of 1950's born women saw a potential opportunity to get their snouts in the trough that the WASPI campaign started to take off.....

OK most working men had decades of notice, a small minority had less than a decade and as I said it was 1 year max.

Triumph13

How can most men have had 'decades of notice' when the first increase in the men's pension age cam in the 2007 pension act?

atush

Hopeless123 wrote: »

Not at all, if I'd known about it I would have planned very differently. My private pension provider only ever went on about the fact I could retire at 55 and take my pension early, so that didn't give me a clue either. Actually if I had I'd have got about £2000pa.

Dont you read newspapers? Watch TV?

All changes were WIDELY advertised. I knew. Why didnt you?

Pollycat

atush wrote: »

Dont you read newspapers? Watch TV?

All changes were WIDELY advertised. I knew. Why didnt you?

And discussed in places like hairdressers.
The owner of the salon I use was one of the last ones to get her pension at age 60, my hairdresser is a lot younger.
We've had many a discussion over the last 3 years or so since the WASPI campaign and they both remember having discussions with clients after the 1995 change and the later change.

ffacoffipawb

Pollycat wrote: »

And discussed in places like hairdressers.
The owner of the salon I use was one of the last ones to get her pension at age 60, my hairdresser is a lot younger.
We've had many a discussion over the last 3 years or so since the WASPI campaign and they both remember having discussions with clients after the 1995 change and the later change.

Surely offering a bribe to WASPE to swing an election result is fraudulent or corrupt behaviour?

Thrugelmir

ffacoffipawb wrote: »

Surely offering a bribe to WASPE to swing an election result is fraudulent or corrupt behaviour?

They'll be unhappy once they realise the money is taxable!

Seems as if Labour know that a huge amount will flow immediately back into the Treasury that can be spent elsewhere.

Rich2808

Thrugelmir wrote: »

They'll be unhappy once they realise the money is taxable!

Seems as if Labour know that a huge amount will flow immediately back into the Treasury that can be spent elsewhere.

Or cuts to pension credit entitlements and other benefits - for the women on low incomes who actually need the cash!


Putting this into context £58 billion over five years could be used instead for example to literally double the number of police officers and firefighters across the entire UK each and every year compared to current numbers!


Lets hope many of those WASPIs in their leafy detached houses - some although I accept not all - they couldn't possibly downsize from to free up cash don't get burgled!

Pollycat

ffacoffipawb wrote: »

Surely offering a bribe to WASPE to swing an election result is fraudulent or corrupt behaviour?

It's probably me...but I don't understand this comment based on what I posted. :huh:

Triumph13

ffacoffipawb wrote: »

Surely offering a bribe to WASPE to swing an election result is fraudulent or corrupt behaviour?

Politicians always try to bribe sections of the electorate to win their votes. The trick is to a) make it big enough to win the votes of the people you target and b) make it small enough not to alienate too many other people who have to pay for it.
This one definitely fails on b) and, as Fred246 points out, won't work for a) as clearly they won't know about it.