Please recommend a supplier and quote their rates

Jakubk

Can anyone recommend a cheap supplier who does NOT insist on a Smart Meter or Direct Debit or Pre-Payment meter.

It would help if they had cheap energy prices and ideally low or no standing charge.

I have tried the Comparison Websites but it is taking forever to drill down only to find the deal requires a smart meter

molerat

In the MSE club simply click on no standing charge and quarterly cash or cheque, what could be simpler. The problem is it only comes up with 2 suppliers at 50% and 100% more than I am currently paying. Quite happy to stick with monthly DD. You only get caught out if you let them.

Jakubk

Are you trying to be funny?

"We were unable to find any tariffs of this type. You can amend your filters to reveal more tariffs."

Is it really that hard to just reply if you can actually help, I am looking for people with EXPERIENCE who can recommend a supplier as specified in OP, I will break this down as you clearly did not understand the request

Does NOT insist on a Smart Meter
Does NOT insist on a Pre-Payment meter.
Does NOT insist on a Direct Debit
Low or no standing charge.

Robin9

I also get 2 suppliers as Molerat does- selecting monthly gives me none, quarterly 2. Ebico would cost me 50% more, Utilita 10% (but that's variable)

You could get the last three requests but not the first

UnclaimedEnergy

Ebico
Northumbria
Robin Hood

All 3 accept pay on receipt

However pay on receipt tariffs are about £100 - £150 more expensive than DD... so you're making a premium for yourself for no reason.

I'm not going to quote their rates as you can easily go onto Uswitch to do a comparison as rates differ per region due to regional costs.

Ebico are the only company to offer 0 standing charge, however they Unit rates are some of the highest and is only worth joining if your usage is next to nothing.

Jakubk

DD is not an option.

I know most who offer zero standing are aiming it at people with second homes rather than the poor.

I am happy to pay for something I have used as soon as I am presented with a bill, a bit like a restaurant.

I am disabled so going to the bank to pay is a journey I have to plan as I do all journeys but it gets me out of the house.

With my last supplier Solarplicity it was a hassle because they did not show it on the account, they changed bank accounts and over time I tended to pay what I expected to owe in for 3 months, so I would get a bill for one month of £40 and pay £120.

Then they had a problem taking readings, not just via the website but via the staff in South Africa who really did nothing but take messages. The problem turned out to be that their billing system issued the bills early and then would not allow you to put in actual rates.

So this led to them (conveniently) over estimating my usage, I am convinced that they started prepping the company to go bust in January for the August crash. They had three years of readings, absolutely no reason to over estimate my usage.

I then paid £160 even though I knew it was wrong because the idea of being in debt (or having an energy company grab MY money) is horrendous.

So then Solarplicity hiked their rates without giving ANY notice, after that they sold the customer list to Toto who promised we would have the same rates as we had at Solarplicity and that our credit would be transferred. I got no welcome pack, they have not transferred my credit and the rates they are charging are not what Solarplicity were charging before or after the hike.

I would consider a pre-payment smart meter but the rates are not cheap, there is no competition and my neighbour is having huge problems with hers.

So needless to say I have little trust for energy companies.

OFGEM has proven yet again that they are not fit for purpose.

I have no recourse for the overcharging by Solarplicity

I have no recourse for any of the other problems with Solarplicity despite OFGEM being involved.

OFGEM have allowed this cowboy behaviour, the selling of our data without permission (Toto is not a supplier of last resort).

Meanwhile the Directors of Solarplicity who have created up to 59 companies the names of which change to similar and the same names at alarming regularity, carry on with the companies where they have the control of their assets (some via the pension scheme of the CEO). They have been sanctioned for not filing the mortgages of Directors flats which were in a company name, at companies house.

They have run companies into the ground owing HMRC (you and me), they failed to follow the regulations on so many things that OFGEM should have shut them down years ago.

The CEO has just started renting his huge house, probably because it was on public documents and they fear a backlash.

Meanwhile they carry on with a name change and the important assets under their control.

So for me I am facing a winter without any heat so I can pay a £200 standing charge. Why, so we can all pay for the £13 Billion pound cost of this white elephant smart meter project.

The Government has given them another 4 year, instead it should be saying,

"you the energy companies get the biggest benefits, no cost of meter readers, moving all customers to monthly instead of quarterly billing, so YOU fund it, no more standing charges and you can't increase energy rates to compensate"

Then we would not have the disease of OPM (spending other people's money).

The project would be cancelled or drastically cut (they really do not need a dedicated comms network)

[Deleted User]

Get a friends referral fee and go to Bulb.
They only have two tariffs, one for credit meters, one for prepay..Not exactly the cheapest supplier but not far off and in the top 20..
Once you are with Bulb , you too could collect £50 a time referring to a friend.. No exit fees, variable tariff.
I was with them last year and had no issues and collected £100 in referrals.
So far they are not "offering " to fit smart meters..All suppliers cannot "insist " on a smart meter only "offer ".
Ideally governments should keep their noses out of interfering with the energy market.All they have succeeding in doing is adding billions to the overall running costs.

Jakubk

Thanks, I will look them up, they did not come up at all in uSwitch even when I did the "show companies you can't sign up with via uSwitch".

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Jakubk wrote: »

Thanks, I will look them up, they did not come up at all in uSwitch even when I did the "show companies you can't sign up with via uSwitch".

Yes, comparison sites do not always show all the suppliers. I left Bulb to Symbio Energy for my electric , which did not show in either Cheap energy Club or Citizens Advice site..For me they were the lowest priced electric rates , and Zog Energy almost lowest gas rates so this year I ve gone separate gas and electric.
Bulb were excellent. very reliable and I would nt hesitate in returning. Pity I can t find a few more friends to collect the £50 a time referral fees.
you can find a list of referral fee "friends " on here..Some offer to share their £50 and would give you an extra £25 , making a total of £75

Centage

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Jakubk wrote: »

Can anyone recommend a cheap supplier who does NOT insist on a Smart Meter or Direct Debit or Pre-Payment meter.

It would help if they had cheap energy prices and ideally low or no standing charge.

I have tried the Comparison Websites but it is taking forever to drill down only to find the deal requires a smart meter

Jakubk wrote: »

Are you trying to be funny?

"We were unable to find any tariffs of this type. You can amend your filters to reveal more tariffs."

Is it really that hard to just reply if you can actually help, I am looking for people with EXPERIENCE who can recommend a supplier as specified in OP, I will break this down as you clearly did not understand the request

Does NOT insist on a Smart Meter
Does NOT insist on a Pre-Payment meter.
Does NOT insist on a Direct Debit
Low or no standing charge.

Smart meters
Smart meters are not mandatory. It's entirely up to you if you want them fitted. I believe all suppliers therefore offer tariffs that do NOT insist in you having a smart meter.
I think eversmart were the only supplier planning to make thesmart metering compulsory for all their customers, but tehy have already gone bust.
There are a few specific tariffs offered by the odd supplier that may depend on you having a smart meter fitted when offered, but you can refuse, in which case they will probably move you to another tariff.

Pre-payment meter
This really depends on your own credit history, rather than teh supplier you choose.
If you already have credit meters fitted, chances unless you have an appalling credit history, the supplier will allow you to keep them, although if you don't have a good credit history, they may request a 12 month refundable security deposit when you first join them.

If you have defaulted with a supplier, they may never allow you credit again.

There are the odd specilaist supplier who only deal with prepayment meters. e.g. Boost, but they are only a division on Ovo do who support credit meters.

Direct Debit.
I believe all of the Big 6 have tariffs that do not require you to pay by direct debit.
Other suppliers that also offer such tariffs include:
Ebico
Co-op
Utility Warehouse
Utilita
Engie
GnErgy
GoEffortless
Green Star
Good

(sorry if I've missed anyone off)

Standing Charge
Ebico and Utilita are the only suppliers I know off hand who currently offer zero standing charge tariffs.
As to low standing charges, that depends on how you define low
But I'm not sure why that is important to you.
You seem to be interested in low cost, and using any comparison site will identify the lowest cost supplier & tariffs for your own usage, irrespective of how the tariff make up.

Similarly, I have not provided details of the tariffs, as there are so many you have asked about, and what's more they often vary by supply region, so again use a comparison site to find these out for your own situation.

Many comparison sites, including MSE's own CEC allows you to filter your results it shows you (if you so desire), for example only tariffs that you can pay by cash or cheque, and/or tariffs with no standing charge.

If you are finding using a comparison site too complicated, many of the ofgem accredited comparison sites offer a free telephone helpline (but they may only offer you suppliers and tariffs that will pay them if you agree to switch)

Jakubk

Centage wrote: »

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Smart meters
Smart meters are not mandatory. It's entirely up to you if you want them fitted. I believe all suppliers therefore offer tariffs that do NOT insist in you having a smart meter.
I think eversmart were the only supplier planning to make thesmart metering compulsory for all their customers, but they have already gone bust.
There are a few specific tariffs offered by the odd supplier that may depend on you having a smart meter fitted when offered, but you can refuse, in which case they will probably move you to another tariff.

Pre-payment meter
This really depends on your own credit history, rather than teh supplier you choose.
If you already have credit meters fitted, chances unless you have an appalling credit history, the supplier will allow you to keep them, although if you don't have a good credit history, they may request a 12 month refundable security deposit when you first join them.

If you have defaulted with a supplier, they may never allow you credit again.

There are the odd specialist supplier who only deal with prepayment meters. e.g. Boost, but they are only a division on Ovo do who support credit meters.

Direct Debit.
I believe all of the Big 6 have tariffs that do not require you to pay by direct debit.
Other suppliers that also offer such tariffs include:
Ebico
Co-op
Utility Warehouse
Utilita
Engie
GnErgy
GoEffortless
Green Star
Good

(sorry if I've missed anyone off)

Standing Charge
Ebico and Utilita are the only suppliers I know off hand who currently offer zero standing charge tariffs.
As to low standing charges, that depends on how you define low
But I'm not sure why that is important to you.
You seem to be interested in low cost, and using any comparison site will identify the lowest cost supplier & tariffs for your own usage, irrespective of how the tariff make up.

Similarly, I have not provided details of the tariffs, as there are so many you have asked about, and what's more they often vary by supply region, so again use a comparison site to find these out for your own situation.

Many comparison sites, including MSE's own CEC allows you to filter your results it shows you (if you so desire), for example only tariffs that you can pay by cash or cheque, and/or tariffs with no standing charge.

If you are finding using a comparison site too complicated, many of the ofgem accredited comparison sites offer a free telephone helpline (but they may only offer you suppliers and tariffs that will pay them if you agree to switch)

THANKS you have only made 5 posts but that is a very useful contribution.

I have just a standard electric digital meter, no prepayment and smart enough for me. The Gas is just the standard one in Cubic meters, guess it is analogue and would work for another 30 years if left alone.

I had a bad relationship with one supplier where they overcharged me but that was a dispute where they overcharged me and a 3rd party proved they had the eco7 on 24/7, the CAB gave me a model to work out they owed me £2500, they of course want to argue the toss, they agreed to credit my bills until we got to around £360 but they kept kicking the problem to a new member of staff, so it never got resolved. They would not give me the letter that allowed me to go to the ombudsman and my tenancy was ending so I told them we were in dispute and at an impass but I no longer had strength to fight them. I was told that it costs them £300 to go to the ombudsman so it made no sense, anyway we are past the Limitations Act so it all cancelled out. If anything they owe me £360.

The reason it is important to me is that I use very little energy, the energy companies have a break even point on the paltry amount they reduce their rates by which is usually a 3 bed house.

For people like me it is simple, pay £200 more and get no energy for that, I have no way to economise that away. I can't afford the energy to offset it, my energy costs have been way under £30 a month for both fuels, including VAT. Having no standing charge meant I was able to put the heating on when it got bitterly cold. I do not like to owe money so I always pay my bills as soon as they arrive (once I have checked them).

I have been quite unwell this last year and had a surgery that has been slow to heal, so I took my eye off the ball. Solarplicity did not send me an annual usage statement so I need to go look at my records, but for now I am using the statement I had from Southern Electric who were the incumbent.

A search on uswitch shows what most people seem to think is a cowboy outfit (Northumbria) or else Scottish Power but they insist on a Smart meter and they have deleted Pay on Receipt of bill from the website. A call to them proved to be virtually hostile and I am left thinking "if this is what they are like now, what will they be like once they have me by the short and curlies"?

None of the price comparison sites is as low as I am used to paying and I am not surprised, it is hard to hide £200 extra a year in standing charges.