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  • Frugaldom
    Frugaldom Posts: 7,136 Forumite
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    Kingmonkey, sorry your jalapenos got frosted, butterfly I was just responding to cashsaver's comment about their allotment but with prices the way they are, I may end up only ever saving enough to buy a small caravan and a veggie plot. :D

    Hope your herbs are doing ok, I think my parsley succumbed to dampness in the foundations resulting in irrepairable structural damage. :rotfl:
    I reserve the right not to spend.
    The less I spend, the more I can afford.


    Frugal living challenge - living on little in 2025 while frugalling towards retirement.
  • Frugaldom
    Frugaldom Posts: 7,136 Forumite
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    Can anyone believe that it's time for the first interest payments to be made on the new ISAs already? :j Time is flying by, and I'm clicking and refreshing in a sad sort of a way to see my balances update. I can't wait for the day that I can earn enough interest to cover my rent until I can buy a house! I should be about half way to covering my grocery challenge this year. :o :rotfl:
    I reserve the right not to spend.
    The less I spend, the more I can afford.


    Frugal living challenge - living on little in 2025 while frugalling towards retirement.
  • Frugaldom
    Frugaldom Posts: 7,136 Forumite
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    Progress report:

    Stage 1 - 100%
    Stage 2 - 100%
    Stage 3 - 3.38% <<< a silly number!! I need £306.12 to reach 4%

    Ciggie savings/garden fund is growing slowly at a rate of £1.35 per day
    I increased the daily amount to reflect the latest price increase.

    Interest beater challenge is tax free income being 'earned' to compensate for the interest lost by having to pay my £4000 p.a. cost of living. It's being used to pay for my tax free friendly society bond, which incorporates life insurance, so I don't count it in my house challenge.

    Hope everyone is sticking to their guns on the savings plans.
    Enjoy holiday weekend. :)
    I reserve the right not to spend.
    The less I spend, the more I can afford.


    Frugal living challenge - living on little in 2025 while frugalling towards retirement.
  • wisbech_lad
    wisbech_lad Posts: 295 Forumite
    I am also hoping to buy house outright when we get round to it. For various work related reasons, always been a renter.

    Saving so far (I am not a miser, but I have a good job, and am not much interested in things, but am interested in investing, so over the years it has added up, compound interest & dividends are your friend)

    Shares/equity funds - 520,000
    Bonds - 6,000
    Cash - 33,000
    Other - 25,000
    Total - 584,000

    Pension pot - about 350,000 or so

    My target is somewhere between 1.3 and 2.6 million pounds. A large, vague target, but somewhere inbetween those two we could live without ever needing a job (including buying house outright)

    But I enjoy my job, so all a bit moot anyway!
  • setmefree2
    setmefree2 Posts: 9,072 Forumite
    Mortgage-free Glee!
    I am also hoping to buy house outright when we get round to it. For various work related reasons, always been a renter.

    Saving so far (I am not a miser, but I have a good job, and am not much interested in things, but am interested in investing, so over the years it has added up, compound interest & dividends are your friend)

    Shares/equity funds - 520,000
    Bonds - 6,000
    Cash - 33,000
    Other - 25,000
    Total - 584,000

    Pension pot - about 350,000 or so

    My target is somewhere between 1.3 and 2.6 million pounds. A large, vague target, but somewhere inbetween those two we could live without ever needing a job (including buying house outright)

    But I enjoy my job, so all a bit moot anyway!

    Blimey! Lucky tou. keep us posted. are you waiting to see how far the housing market drops?:confused:
  • wisbech_lad
    wisbech_lad Posts: 295 Forumite
    Thanks - financially, yes I am lucky (though the harder I work, the luckier I get... ;) ) Wife doesn't need to work, but she does part time job for interest. Still, we would give up a fair chunk of change for children (unfortunately, looks like we can't have any) but have come to terms with that.

    Not really looking to time the market. It's like buying a car (which we don't have at the moment, as don't need) or a PC. When you need one, you go buy the one that best fits your needs and budget at that time, and don't fret that there will be a better/cheaper/faster one in six months time. That way stress and remorse lie. And at the moment, we don't need to buy a house.
  • Frugaldom
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    Not really looking to time the market. It's like buying a car (which we don't have at the moment, as don't need) or a PC. When you need one, you go buy the one that best fits your needs and budget at that time, and don't fret that there will be a better/cheaper/faster one in six months time. That way stress and remorse lie. And at the moment, we don't need to buy a house.

    I like your reasoning and may borrow a few phrases from it, thanks for that. :T I guess we should all count our blessings rather than drive ourselves round the bend trying to cover every single 'what if' scenario. As Rabbie Burns would say, 'The best-laid schemes o' mice an 'men gang aft agley'.

    Maybe there is a slim chance of a self-employed, skint person getting a mortgage. I have never actually asked! :rotfl:

    Edited in: On reflection - do I actually NEED to own a house at this time? Right now I'm cheaper renting what fits the combined needs of this household.
    I reserve the right not to spend.
    The less I spend, the more I can afford.


    Frugal living challenge - living on little in 2025 while frugalling towards retirement.
  • Frugaldom
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    Hi to anyone who is still attempting the challenge of saving to become mortgage free without having to have a mortgage in the first place. :)

    I've just spent an enjoyable couple of hours going through house prices, mortgage & interest rates, savings rates and various other calculations that all point towards it becoming within realistic reach of affording to get on the property ladder without the need for a mortgage.

    For savers, interest rates could be better, but I have to say that I have now seen the proof, for myself, that dire straits are where many householders could be heading. My example involves house A, which was bought (with a mortgage) for £100,000 in 2005, current rate 6%. This costs about £500 per month in interest only payments, or £645 interest + capital. In 3 years, it has cost about £18,000 in interest alone, so one would hope that the property would be worth at least £118,000. The current valuation is suggesting £110,000! :eek: Perhaps the buyers' market is getting closer? A search for properties under £40,000 in Scotland just turned up 5 pages of results, lowest priced flat at a starting price of £9,000! :eek:
    I reserve the right not to spend.
    The less I spend, the more I can afford.


    Frugal living challenge - living on little in 2025 while frugalling towards retirement.
  • setmefree2
    setmefree2 Posts: 9,072 Forumite
    Mortgage-free Glee!
    Keep up the great work...with house prices falling your dream is getting closer:D;)
  • pavlovs_dog
    pavlovs_dog Posts: 10,215 Forumite
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    nice to hear from your nyk. hope the plans for the wedding are going well. you found your outfit yet?
    know thyself
    Nid wy'n gofyn bywyd moethus...
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