ARMTRAC Sennen top PCN

KeithP

didgeridoooo said:

Doh, i missed that, sorry. 
I still can't work out how to get notifications, tried so many times I gave up, but will try again. In the past using the "bookmark" button didn't cause me to get notifications, maybe it does now. Thanks 

Well, read that sentence I quoted again... this time, all of it.  

These words are important...

...and enable (on your profile) email alerts for bookmarked threads.

Paul-T951

didgeridoooo said:

Paul-T951 said:

Well what do you know, I’ve just received another letter of claim! I will again write to BW Legal and state I am disputing the claim, wait and see where it goes from here. Unbelievable that I post on the forum after 2 years and within a couple of weeks get another letter of claim! 

Hi Paul - I frequently go to Sennen, and I religiously take photos of signage whenever and wherever I park. I may have some from around the time of your ALLEGED contravention, so feel free to let me know dates and I can look through my photographic 'carparkscum' archive folder  

Armtrac have done their best to destroy Sennen Cove, some say they already have.

I also just received a repeat LoC from BW (ill) Legal. The last one said they would take court action if I didnt respond before January 2020! I had quiet hopes that the morons had doubled up on their 'virus barrier' cloth masks and thus run out of oxygen throughout the recent Marxist madness, hopes dashed again! Just stick to the program, get to know those FAQ and Newbie threads so well it becomes boring, then you can wade into court with confidence IF the time comes. Or maybe you will have what I had last time BW (ill) Legal tried to take me to court. A week preparing a monster defence, only to have them pull out the day before (after I drove to the court at great expense to hand it in on time!)

Watching with interest, keep the faith.  

That’s awesome, thank you for the offer! The PCN was issued on August 5th 2019. I too had the last communication end of 2020, nothing since then a second LOC out of the blue! I’ve had a few of these rescinded in the past with the help of this forum, but not had one that’s gone this far so should be interesting! 

Cornwall is definitely my favourite place in the UK by the way, we go every year. Not been back to Sennen since 2019 though! Kynance Cove has to be our favourite spot, simply beautiful. 

Coupon-mad

The more responses to Government,  the better.

The draft Impact Assessment and Public Consultation is coming, I can tell you that.  The DLUHC is committed to it:

https://questions-statements.parliament.uk/written-questions/detail/2022-09-22/54476

didgeridoooo

KeithP said:

didgeridoooo said:

Doh, i missed that, sorry. 
I still can't work out how to get notifications, tried so many times I gave up, but will try again. In the past using the "bookmark" button didn't cause me to get notifications, maybe it does now. Thanks 

Well, read that sentence I quoted again... this time, all of it.  

These words are important...

...and enable (on your profile) email alerts for bookmarked threads.

Yes, I did that way back when the new forum was released. I have had trouble getting notifications ever since, investigated many times (spam, ISP etc) but to no avail. However I am getting them for this thread after I clicked bookmark so looks like it's all good. (I have changed browser to Brave from Firefox (with many privacy extensions) so maybe that's it). 
All good, thanks again. 

didgeridoooo

Paul-T951 said:

That’s awesome, thank you for the offer! The PCN was issued on August 5th 2019. I too had the last communication end of 2020, nothing since then a second LOC out of the blue! I’ve had a few of these rescinded in the past with the help of this forum, but not had one that’s gone this far so should be interesting! 

Cornwall is definitely my favourite place in the UK by the way, we go every year. Not been back to Sennen since 2019 though! Kynance Cove has to be our favourite spot, simply beautiful. 

Hmm. I had exactly the same sentiments until the past few years. Neither Sennen nor Cornwall is what it was even in 2018 now. It's still beautiful of course, but if you come any time between May and October you may find it rather different. You'd be forgiven for thinking half of Birmingham comes now, every summer. We had two VERY near head on collissions on that long straight towards Sennen, one black Merc/BMW after another, all driving like I'd expect a BW Legal driver to drive.

They also banned vehicles over a certain length from parking at Sennen, ruining the last few summers for our kids who surfed there regularly until they made these changes. It's such a shame. My wife and kids used to collect litter 2 or 3 times a week but with the mercenary parking swines she's lost the will even to do that now, combined with the enormous increase in litter wedged between the rocks at the back of the beach. It would take hours every day to collect it all. Anyway, my gripes with 'progress' aside....

Well, you MAY just be in luck re the photos. I have trawled through my squillions of photos (backup drives in fire safe, I don't mess around when it comes to BW Legal ) and it looks like I do have photos taken very close to the dates you mention. I am still working on it, I will post them here shortly and if they are any use to you I can send you the originals (with Exif/Metadata intact). Back soon... 

Paul-T951

didgeridoooo said:

Paul-T951 said:

That’s awesome, thank you for the offer! The PCN was issued on August 5th 2019. I too had the last communication end of 2020, nothing since then a second LOC out of the blue! I’ve had a few of these rescinded in the past with the help of this forum, but not had one that’s gone this far so should be interesting! 

Cornwall is definitely my favourite place in the UK by the way, we go every year. Not been back to Sennen since 2019 though! Kynance Cove has to be our favourite spot, simply beautiful. 

Hmm. I had exactly the same sentiments until the past few years. Neither Sennen nor Cornwall is what it was even in 2018 now. It's still beautiful of course, but if you come any time between May and October you may find it rather different. You'd be forgiven for thinking half of Birmingham comes now, every summer. We had two VERY near head on collissions on that long straight towards Sennen, one black Merc/BMW after another, all driving like I'd expect a BW Legal driver to drive.

They also banned vehicles over a certain length from parking at Sennen, ruining the last few summers for our kids who surfed there regularly until they made these changes. It's such a shame. My wife and kids used to collect litter 2 or 3 times a week but with the mercenary parking swines she's lost the will even to do that now, combined with the enormous increase in litter wedged between the rocks at the back of the beach. It would take hours every day to collect it all. Anyway, my gripes with 'progress' aside....

Well, you MAY just be in luck re the photos. I have trawled through my squillions of photos (backup drives in fire safe, I don't mess around when it comes to BW Legal ) and it looks like I do have photos taken very close to the dates you mention. I am still working on it, I will post them here shortly and if they are any use to you I can send you the originals (with Exif/Metadata intact). Back soon... 

brilliant thanks so much. 

Oh so it’s YOU we nearly hit in our merc then?

😂 Joking of course. Know what you mean, we’ve seen a difference the last few years but still love the place. Lockdowns didn’t help, it became the staycation of choice. Maybe it’ll settle down once folks are travelling abroad more - once they have some disposable income that is! 

Had a call from BW today after emailing to say I dispute their invoice, no help of course their only advice was to seek legal representation. 

Question to you or anyone - 2 years ago I requested the 30 day hold due to seeking debt advice to allow time for the SAR. Should I do so again or is that a one time deal? 

didgeridoooo

HAHAHAHA. I now have a dashcam so if you do it again you'll pay, I'll issue you a stack of 'speculative invoices' then hound you with fake threats and interest charges  

Still working through but sadly I just noticed you said TOP car park. The ones I found were of the bottom one (same company of course), and I kept them because they mention the word 'offence' which really annoys me (and I heard only the 'state' can state such things). But... I am still looking and I know I do have some of the top car park signage and payment machines too, so I will report back. 

A CALL from BWL? I am not an expert in here but I think I can say with confidence you should never EVER talk to these oxygen thieves. If they rang me I would warn them under the Harassment Act that any further calls would be deemed harassment and reported to the authorities as such. That's me anyway. Pin everything down to hardcopy, not even email.

Not sure on the debt advice 'hold'. But I would think it wouldn't be 'good cricket' of them to deny it a second time, especially 2 years later. A lot can happen in 2 years, although you obviously can't claim the SAR timescale again (unless you SAR again for more up to date information, may be an idea?!)

TTFN

Coupon-mad

Actually, for those robust enough, I really am looking for phone call evidence (recorded) of victims being very calm & reasonable and trying to explain why they dispute the parking charge, only to be bullied by the DRAs who simply demand that you pay and tell you that you are too late to dispute.

I am looking for that evidence right now, whilst the DLUHC are listening to me. 

Particularly keen to have recordings (of course sanitised of your personal data, name, PCN ref etc) of conversations with Gladstones, BW Legal, DCBLegal, DCBLtd, Debt Recovery Plus and ZZPS.

Paul-T951

Coupon-mad said:

Actually, for those robust enough, I really am looking for phone call evidence (recorded) of victims being very calm & reasonable and trying to explain why they dispute the parking charge, only to be bullied by the DRAs who simply demand that you pay and tell you that you are too late to dispute.

I am looking for that evidence right now, whilst the DLUHC are listening to me. 

Particularly keen to have recordings (of course sanitised of your personal data, name, PCN ref etc) of conversations with Gladstones, BW Legal, DCBLegal, DCBLtd, Debt Recovery Plus and ZZPS.

To be fair, and I hate to say it, but the lady I spoke to was really quite pleasant. No harassment tactics, she just asked me to email the photo I have of the ticket as proof I had purchased one (which I had previously sent to Armtrac when I got the windscreen PCN 3 years ago) and once I said I had initially appealed and been rejected just said well there’s not much else we can do and better lawyer up. I think they called because they don’t list an email contact so I chose ‘open formal complaint’ on their web form last night to contact them - called me back at 8am! Happy to record if they call again though. 

didgeridoooo

Coupon-mad said:

Actually, for those robust enough, I really am looking for phone call evidence (recorded) of victims being very calm & reasonable and trying to explain why they dispute the parking charge, only to be bullied by the DRAs who simply demand that you pay and tell you that you are too late to dispute.

I am looking for that evidence right now, whilst the DLUHC are listening to me. 

Particularly keen to have recordings (of course sanitised of your personal data, name, PCN ref etc) of conversations with Gladstones, BW Legal, DCBLegal, DCBLtd, Debt Recovery Plus and ZZPS.

Ha. I actually typed out such a suggestion, then deleted for fear of people criticising me for suggesting such a thing! My phone (android) has CubeACR installed (nice free call recorder that records every call automatically). I often gather evidence that way, anything from refund disputes to dentist appointments, just learned over the years that there's nothing like having the proof of what someone said. I just delete them all unless I think it's worth saving.

I would happily call BWL (for the first time ever!) but my cases are in my wife's name and I doubt they will engage properly. I will see if I can find a case in my name to call them about