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  • Le_Kirk
    Le_Kirk Posts: 25,051 Forumite
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    When you do rewrite your WS, do not refer to the court appearance as a trial - it is a hearing.
  • Nosy
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    Spoke to the court and they said the deadline for documentation which i wish to rely on is 4pm today. Couldn't complete it last night but hopefully get it done by 3pm. Alot more than expected 
  • Nosy
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    @Coupon-mad do you have-  Vidal Hall v (exhibit xx), Roberts v Bank of Scotland para 59-64 (exhibit xx) and Ferguson v British Gas (exhibit xx).?
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 19 June 2021 at 10:48PM
    You can keep the case law (transcripts) out of it and submit that a week before the hearing attached to a skeleton argument about the applicable laws.  That might make it easier, just put in what you have for now!

    But you do need a WS that deals with the counterclaim reasoning and tells the Judge everything, and supports your defence already filed.
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  • Nosy
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    Anyone have an example of a Skelton argument? And links to those case  transcripts? 
  • Nosy
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    I found two. For a Skelton argument, am i supposed to just copy and paste these to a MS Word doc and link to WS? 

    Ferguson v British Gas:  https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2009/46.html

    Roberts v Bank of Scotland https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2013/882.html
  • Coupon-mad
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    I am out this weekend but there are examples of skeleton arguments on the forum and maybe still one in the NEWBIES thread.
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  • Nosy
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    submitted the ws for the RK, But not a ws for the driver. The driver is prepared to provide a ws. Is to tto late, can this be provided as part of the skeleton argument? 
  • Eminowa
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    How did your case go? I guess u won the case as your hearing was suppose to the the 23rd of June.
  • Umkomaas
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    Eminowa said:
    How did your case go? I guess u won the case as your hearing was suppose to the the 23rd of June.
    If the hearing took place over 3 weeks ago, it's a bit disappointing not to have heard anything from the OP by way of an update, especially as so much free-of-charge expert advice - over the 170 posts on this thread - has been given to support him through all of this. 😔 
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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