traffic lights/louves

Manxman_in_exile

We have these louvres on a nearby Pelican crossing which is less than 100 yards after a major light controlled junction. It's to prevent people stopped on red at the junction seeing green at the Pelican crossing and thinking it's for them* and that they can proceed.


We thought it odd when they were introduced but they actually work well and I think it's a good idea - not at all dangerous!


* I know that may sound stupid but we have several examples of this type of junction/crossing combination near us and it can be very easy to move through the junction when you see the lights on the crossing change. It would be a good idea to put louvres on all these crossings.

Scrapit

castle96 wrote: »

Seriously? That is concerning.

USEFUL !

Not useful, just an observation. It should be self evident why these exist but to call them dangerous when they are actually safer....highly disconcerting. I'm just glad I've got a dash cam for the people that frequent this forum.

bigisi

Scrapit wrote: »

I'm just glad I've got a dash cam for the people that frequent this forum.

Ooh, do we all get one? Very generous of you

Scrapit

bigisi wrote: »

Ooh, do we all get one? Very generous of you

Completely free just a admin fee of £100 And pnp of £234 left to pay.

shaun_from_Africa

Norman_Castle wrote: »

Not sure how its dangerous. They limit the view to only those that need to see them.

But in some cases they also severely limit the view to those that do need to see them.

This is one such light (on the Purley way in Croydon, beside the Porcelanosa showroom)) and I've lost count of the number of motorists who stop totally or slam their brakes on because they think that the light is not working. In the picture, the light is showing green but this can only been seen when you are right beside it.

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AdrianC

shaun_from_Africa wrote: »

This is one such light

This junction...?
https://goo.gl/maps/8gKk96kHUmx2YwAx9

Simple solution. Don't stand on the roof of your car while driving it. Then you'll have a more normal eyeline towards the light than the photo shows, which is clearly higher even than that of an HGV driver - and be able to see it as designed.

shaun_from_Africa

AdrianC wrote: »

Simple solution. Don't stand on the roof of your car while driving it. Then you'll have a more normal eyeline towards the light than the photo shows, which is clearly higher even than that of an HGV driver - and be able to see it as designed.

If you had actually driven past that light, you would know that even from the normal viewpoint inside a car it's still extremely difficult to see if there is a green or amber light showing until you are almost beside it, something that isn't normally the case with louvered lights.

How do you think I knew to picture this exact light if I hadn't already seen it and hadn't already seen a great many drivers stopping or slowing right down when approaching it?

Here's a correctly set up louvered light, one that allows the louvered light to clearly be seen from the correct lane and at a reasonable distance away.


I know that you enjoy arguing for the sake of it but surely even you can see the difference between the two sets of shielded lights, both photographed from the same height yet the green of one can be seen and the green of the other one can't.

AdrianC

OK, fine. So the problem is that particular one's poorly installed, not a conceptual issue.

shaun_from_Africa

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AdrianC wrote: »

OK, fine. So the problem is that particular one's poorly installed, not a conceptual issue.

Which is exactly what I stated earlier,

shaun_from_Africa wrote: »

But in some cases they also severely limit the view to those that do need to see them.

but as normal, you decided to try to find something to argue about whilst totally missing the point of the post you were arguing about.

If I know of one then there is a very good chance that this isn't the only one like it in the country.

castle96

to me, it's still a cr*p idea