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  • nigelbb
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    No one website shows all the deals available so you need to check several to find the best/cheapest for you.
  • nigelbb wrote: »
    No one website shows all the deals available so you need to check several to find the best/cheapest for you.
    The two who I have moved to I went on their home website. CEC did not show Symbio. and other comparison sites could not handle the switch because sensibly these suppliers will not pay commissions. The tariffs on the home website were exactly the same as those published on CEC and Uswitch.
  • mac.d
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    Gerry1 wrote: »
    Use the Citizens Advice website because it shows all suppliers (the commercial sites don't have to do this). It's quick and easy - no messing about with entering your address or email.
    This is exactly why I use the Citizens Advice site along with the MSE CEC, its definitely the quickest & easiest site to use, though it is worth also using others like uSwitch in addition to make sure you are getting any deals or cashback offers that are available.
  • nigelbb
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    mac.d wrote: »
    This is exactly why I use the Citizens Advice site along with the MSE CEC, its definitely the quickest & easiest site to use, though it is worth also using others like uSwitch in addition to make sure you are getting any deals or cashback offers that are available.
    The Citizens Advice website https://energycompare.citizensadvice.org.uk/ is the most honest as it does show all the suppliers but it doesn't show all the deals that they are offering. Some deals will only be available on uswitch others only available on MSE others only on gocompare etc I started a thread about this issue last January
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5954926
  • nigelbb wrote: »
    The Citizens Advice website https://energycompare.citizensadvice.org.uk/ is the most honest as it does show all the suppliers but it doesn't show all the deals that they are offering. Some deals will only be available on uswitch others only available on MSE others only on gocompare etc I started a thread about this issue last January
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5954926
    I have seen the CAB site show exclusive uSwitch tariffs in the results so they do track other websites for exclusive deals. Cannot say every site but I can report what I've seen with my own eyes.
  • Also a great tip for the CAB site is that if you bookmark the results page, then when you use the bookmark page anytime later , it will rerun your query and show the latest results.
  • Gerry1
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    Citizens Advice and Which both use Ofgem accredited energy comparison site Energylinx.

    So they will both have all the same info as Energylinx, but the others don't pay possible cashback.
    Interesting. But they all work in noticeably differently ways and they don't give identical results.

    I'd agree that Which? uses Energylinx, although it's slightly less accurate because E7 is only to 5%. Which? gives the same results, even including Gulf's 'exclusive to Energylinx' tariff. But the results from CA and Energylinx don't seem comparable: Energylinx misses out Green Network Energy, but CA miss Northumbria Energy.doh.gif

    Citizens Advice doesn't look up your type of electricity meter (e.g. E7) because it doesn't ask for your address. That means you can also get single rate quotations if you have an E7 meter.

    Energylinx looks up the electricity meter, but is slightly less accurate because it asks for the percentage used at night to 1% (why??) instead of the simple Night and Day kWh values shown on the bills. Although it asks for the address, Which? doesn't check the meter and is even less accurate (E7 night usage only to 5%).

    Another problem (apart from persistently defaulting to the Narrow Market) is that Energylinx doesn't include results from Outfox The Market. It's probably because OTM don't quote for E7, their sister company Eco7 does that. At least CA allow you to find companies that offer cheaper single rate tariffs for people with E7 meters.

    I thought I was well aware of all the mega-complicated rules to get the best deals from comparison sites (try dual fuel, then separate gas / electricity, then with E7 as single rate, then looking for exclusives on commercial PCWs, then deleting cookies and checking cashback sites such as Quidco etc) but now it seems to be even more complicated than I could ever have imagined...
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  • Biscuit_Tin
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    edited 12 August 2019 at 12:23PM
    Gerry1 wrote: »
    Interesting. But they all work in noticeably differently ways and they don't give identical results.

    I'd agree that Which? uses Energylinx, although it's slightly less accurate because E7 is only to 5%. Which? gives the same results, even including Gulf's 'exclusive to Energylinx' tariff. But the results from CA and Energylinx don't seem comparable: Energylinx misses out Green Network Energy, but CA miss Northumbria Energy.doh.gif...

    As Energytwist says, the three sites use the same database of suppliers & tariffs, so the results should be the same (given the same input)

    Yes, there may be differences in formats
    e.g. the CAB site does not allow any switching through them

    and some sites ask for a percentage of low rate of total electricity consumption when considering E7, whilst others ask for consumption for each registry.

    I have just looked at Energylinx, and GNE came up in the results for me.

    MSE-Energy-Linx-GNE.jpg

    Are you currently with GNE? I have noticed occassionally that Energylinx does not display tariffs from current supplier (even when looking at suppliers they cannot swittch you to) ... but it's only occassionally.

    e.g Zog Energy does not appear (looking at gas only, obviously) if you are already supplied by them.
    Presumably though, you will know what better deals, if any, are available from your own supplier as they have to keep you informed.

    Also, best advice is to consult at least a couple of independent comparison sites (ofgem accredited) to ensure you are getting consistent results.
  • Gerry1
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    No, I'm with Yorkshire Energy.
  • Biggus_Dickus
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    Citizens Advice and Which both use Ofgem accredited energy comparison site Energylinx.

    So they will both have all the same info as Energylinx, but the others don't pay possible cashback.
    It’s quite interesting (and confusing) to see how these sites get their tariff info;

    ...if you ask for an email confirmation of a quote from the Citizens Advice Comparison tool the email footer itself contains this snippet, “Powered by energyhelpline”,...clicking this email link takes you to the home-page of the EnergyHelpline price comparison site,...it doesn't take you to Energylinx or back to CAB. :huh:
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