Advice after receiving Final Demand

austin2014

ahhhh Coupon-mad I mis-interpreted what you was asking me, my apologies. I think I understand now. How do you feel the Defense letter is looking? Spent nearly the whole day on this

Coupon-mad

I want to know what is the NTK ISSUE DATE as opposed to the PCN DATE...please!

austin2014

The letter they sent was double headed so the PCN was issued the same time as the NTK they share the same issue date. I hope that answers your question. Or is it that I need to make that clearer in my Defence? Think that's where I am getting a tad confused. Thank you

Coupon-mad

No I will try a 4th time. You said:

I had the RED this is not a parking charge notice with the link to the website on the back.

What date? The date of the parking event, please.

My PCN/NTK arrived in the post 29 days after the occurrence

Never mind when it arrived, what 'sent' or 'issued' DATE was on it?

Coupon-mad

No, please please please can you just type those TWO dates (and NOT when the NTK was received, when it was stated to be 'sent').

austin2014

Apologies,
parking event date 22/04/19
Issue date PCN/NTK 21/05/19

Coupon-mad

OK, and is it your car, not a leased/company one where they named you as hirer/lessee during that month's gap?

austin2014

Yes it is my car.

Coupon-mad

Right, so the NTK was not sent prematurely. That is unusual.

So you should turn the usual argument (this one that KeithP stated, which is the normal thing we tell people to say) on its head:

The card affixed to the car at the time of the parking incident is a Parking Charge Notice - a Notice to Driver - despite what it may say on the card.

So, unlike that usual advice, you should be saying that the 'red card' was clearly marked (if it was?) 'THIS IS NOT A PARKING CHARGE NOTICE', thus, there was no windscreen PCN, and under para 9 of the POFA, the Notice to Keeper arrived far too late for liability to pass to the registered keeper.

austin2014

Thank you, and sorry again for the earlier confusion. So the part where I have referenced adambuzz14. That is probably now irrelevant. So take that section out and replace with information you have just mentioned? Thank you Coupon-mad.