In work poverty due to overpriced housing costs

pickledonionspaceraider

Zero_Sum wrote: »

Its quite shocking that posters are advocating social cleansing of the big cities.
Housing would be less of an issue if there were less centralisation & more jobs in the provinces.

It is not just posters on here, it is the Government - this has been going on years

https://www.urbantransformations.ox.ac.uk/blog/2018/challenging-the-gentrification-of-council-estates-in-london/

Jonathan_Kelvin

pickledonionspaceraider wrote: »

What a blinkered
But you would like to force people to move home into shared accommodation, because 'you' chose to work in their area.

Yes, that’s right.

As to the point about commuters being the trespassers, don’t make me laugh, I lived in Central London for twenty five years before moving out to commute as family homes in the centre were too expensive. The idea that I’m trespassing when I trudge back in to work is just silly.

As to it being “their” area, there aren’t that many people in council housing in Mile End whose roots go back very far.

No, putting up people who won’t (please notice, won’t, not can’t) work right next to the jobs that commuters do will have to stop, and hopefully we’ll be seeing that implemented soon.

Jonathan_Kelvin

Zero_Sum wrote: »

Its quite shocking that posters are advocating social cleansing of the big cities.
Housing would be less of an issue if there were less centralisation & more jobs in the provinces.

Why does it matter where the jobs are to people who will not work?

How can it be right to house a family of five whose parents have never worked a couple of hundred metres from the square mile when many of the people working at the end of their road have to commute for hours each way?

Zero_Sum

Jonathan_Kelvin wrote: »

Why does it matter where the jobs are to people who will not work?

How can it be right to house a family of five whose parents have never worked a couple of hundred metres from the square mile when many of the people working at the end of their road have to commute for hours each way?

The north south divide in general

triathlon

Crashy_Time wrote: »

No because if they start realising that there is a world outside London that they can escape to many won`t come back, even to work.

Well there is a first ever, something which I agree with you. Anyone owning property in London as got a lottery ticket to start a new life in places so much more magical than London in just about every corner of the UK.

phillw

triathlon wrote: »

Well there is a first ever, something which I agree with you. Anyone owning property in London as got a lottery ticket to start a new life in places so much more magical than London in just about every corner of the UK.

10:00 onwards

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b011675d/stewart-lees-comedy-vehicle-series-2-2-london

"They look at the horse that lives in the field behind the house"

chucknorris

AG47 wrote: »

The new high speed trains are supposed to help mor people live away from London and still work there, but will they happen in our lifetimes?

At what cost though? Not just the train cost, also the opportunity of selling up and moving somewhere cheaper (a windfall) and also the commuting time, most people still have a bit of a journey on the tube after their train journey.

Zero_Sum

Jonathan_Kelvin wrote: »

Why does it matter where the jobs are to people who will not work?

How can it be right to house a family of five whose parents have never worked a couple of hundred metres from the square mile when many of the people working at the end of their road have to commute for hours each way?

Theres only a few '000 who live in the square mile anyway so its an extreme example to use.

There are London boroughs where people are being told that if they want a council house they have to move hundreds of miles away from family otherwise theyd be classed as actively turning down a council house offer. How can that be right.

Some posters seem to be suggesting that the poor move away from family to areas where housing is cheaper. Then also suggesting people move to expensive areas hundreds of miles away if you want a job. In both cases they still cant afford the house.

What im saying is that with a more balanced economy you wouldnt need to do either. The expensive areas wouldnt be as expensive as the demand is reduced & people wouldnt need to move away from the cheaper areas as jobs will exist.

As things stand too much in concentrated in the south & it totally wrong.

MobileSaver

MobileSaver wrote: »

I find it much more shocking that some people feel they are entitled to live in one of the most expensive cities in the world and have someone else pay for it...

pickledonionspaceraider wrote: »

Can you point me in the direction of where this is said?

Is this not what you meant by the following?

pickledonionspaceraider wrote: »

Many of the people in social housing ... have family going back generations around London. But you would like to force people to move home into shared accommodation, ... the people who have lived there all their lives.

Or do you accept that just because someone "has lived there all their life" doesn't give them any more entitlement than anyone else to live in a particular place?

triathlon

Zero_Sum wrote: »

Theres only a few '000 who live in the square mile anyway so its an extreme example to use.

There are London boroughs where people are being told that if they want a council house they have to move hundreds of miles away from family otherwise theyd be classed as actively turning down a council house offer. How can that be right.

Some posters seem to be suggesting that the poor move away from family to areas where housing is cheaper. Then also suggesting people move to expensive areas hundreds of miles away if you want a job. In both cases they still cant afford the house.

What im saying is that with a more balanced economy you wouldnt need to do either. The expensive areas wouldnt be as expensive as the demand is reduced & people wouldnt need to move away from the cheaper areas as jobs will exist.

As things stand too much in concentrated in the south & it totally wrong.

I have 100's of family members and friends whose roots go back centuries in London mixed in with a little Irish later, all of which were roll your sleeves up hard grafting types who to this day talk over Christmas dinners about their London history going way back or talking about people who went even further back

At a rough estimate I would guess that 85% of my family have now had to leave London for various reasons, reasons such as it becoming unaffordable for just average working people and also the communities having being all but destroyed by forced immigration and crime.

So I would be very careful playing the sympathy card using certain sections of todays modern society