Remoaners Revenge...

custardy

zarf2007 wrote: »

Nice to see their latest efforts to sabotage what was a democratic vote to leave by preventing the possibility of a prorogued parliament as a method to get a no deal brexit through.

Well done, you have just removed the leverage we needed to get a better deal and if we don’t leave on the 29th Farage will be laughing all the way to the next election. A spectacular remoaner own goal.

Leverage? I though countries were desperate to deal with us?

Herzlos

ess0two wrote: »

Even better if remainers could accept the result and move on?

Moved on to where? We still don't know what you guys have supposedly won.


Show us a credible plan and we'll fall behind it.

ess0two

Herzlos wrote: »

Moved on to where? We still don't know what you guys have supposedly won.


Show us a credible plan and we'll fall behind it.

Won what, where have I posted anything about winning?


Plan all along is about leaving.

Herzlos

ess0two wrote: »

Won what, where have I posted anything about winning?

Sorry, what result are you talking about Remainers not accepting?

Plan all along is about leaving.

Cool, so what is this plan for leaving?

ess0two

Herzlos wrote: »

Sorry, what result are you talking about Remainers not accepting?






Cool, so what is this plan for leaving?

Scroll back a bit and read,it'll become clear enough who I was quoting,perhaps you'll understand...

Simply enough plan,we leave October 31st,regardless.

Fran_Klee

custardy wrote: »

Leverage? I though countries were desperate to deal with us?

You must show us where that has been said by anybody of influence.


You're (deliberately?) misunderstanding, probably as a result of your personal hatred of Brexit.
Britain has relied upon imports to survive for centuries, even now being reliant upon imports for a large and diverse range such as foodstuffs to machinery and pharmaceuticals to vehicles.


Do you honestly and seriously imagine that nowhere beyond the boundaries of the EU27 would anybody like to tap into the UK import market which, I will remind you, is worth some $673 billion per year?
Nobody globally would rather sell us butter and bacon cheaper than the Danish - with equally high standards and less hassle?
Nobody globally would like to sell us motor vehicles of a better quality and at a better price than BMW, Volkswagen-Audi, Peugeot/Citroen etc?
Nobody globally would like to sell us high-quality ethically-sourced and maybe even organic fruit and veg in huge quantities at similar or better prices than the EU?

Presumably you also don't think that there would ever be any degree of reciprocation for access to our huge market either?
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Maybe not necessarily desperate to deal with the UK then (though I'm waiting for you to provide evidence of who said that) but thinking that outside the EU nobody wants access to our huge market isn't just being in denial, it's delusional.

FYI there are already multiple overseas producers who quite literally bend over backwards to comply with UK supermarkets requirements, seeing regular visits and checks together with very strict requirements as to all stages of the production process.
This for deals often worth £ tens of millions.


Do you really not think you'll see similar for repeat contracts worth hundreds of millions or billions?

waamo

ess0two wrote: »

Scroll back a bit and read,it'll become clear enough who I was quoting,perhaps you'll understand...

Simply enough plan,we leave October 31st,regardless.

Regardless of what, the wishes of Parliament? That's a dangerous path to go down

Fran_Klee

waamo wrote: »

Regardless of what, the wishes of Parliament? That's a dangerous path to go down

Parliament already gave their approval when they voted by huge majority to implement Article 50 because there was never any certainty of an EU/UK deal being reached; most of us realised immediately that the EU would NEVER let any country leave easily.
So the dangerous way to go is when they renege upon what they have already voted on.

waamo

Fran_Klee wrote: »

Parliament already gave their approval when they voted by huge majority to implement Article 50 because there was never any certainty of an EU/UK deal being reached; most of us realised immediately that the EU would NEVER let any country leave easily.
So the dangerous way to go is when they renege upon what they have already voted on.

It's a bit more than that though. They agreed to leave but have added the caveat that there must be a deal. What that deal may be is yet to be decided.

Parliament either needs to overturn that decision or come up with a deal. You can't just ride roughshod over what has been decided.

I can't see any other resolution other than a general election.

zarf2007

triathlon wrote: »

Show me a hardened Brexiteer and I will show you a non educated failure in life, probably without their own home who just wants to get his own back on the people he is jealous of who have made something of their lives.

Scorched earth policy

Yes that really applies to me and my fellow brexitiers, all earn £90k+, own more than one property and are well educated, so again, another remainers urban legend that they love to spread.