Remoaners Revenge...

lisyloo

Zuzel wrote: »

:rotfl:
Yes, we'll just ignore the teensy-weensy fact that both in Europe and globally the car industry is in the doldrums shall we?
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-22/when-the-music-stops-carmakers-cleave-jobs-as-global-sales-slip

So you do agree that the investment will fall?
Just not for the same reasons.

lisyloo

MobileSaver wrote: »

I wouldn't like to guess what the considerable cost of the Navy having to protect our fishing waters would be.

They can’t if they are escorting ships in the strait of Hormuz.
We don’t have any more navy ships than that.

westernpromise

We should put Spitfires and dreadnoughts back into production. That'll learn 'em.

Zuzel

lisyloo wrote: »

They can’t if they are escorting ships in the strait of Hormuz.
We don’t have any more navy ships than that.

Such a lack of knowledge and understanding as displayed in those two sentences explains a lot.

Thrugelmir

lisyloo wrote: »

That investment and jobs e.g. car factory, came to the UK because it’s currently a great place to be to ship your goods to the EU.

Historically the UK used to have a huge vehicle industry. (note vehicle not car). The industry has been in decline for decades. Early 70's , British Leyland alone directly employed some 250,000 people.

StevieJ

Herzlos wrote: »

And is spouting the usual garbage with no details.


Like these 2:



Technically true, but we've still seen a single example of a deal or regulation we can get that is worth it.

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Not even with the Yanks if we threaten the GFA

New UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson is banking on a bumper transatlantic team-up as he plans for life after Britain has left the European Union, and Mr Trump has offered him encouragement by envisaging “a very substantial trade agreement” which increased trade “four or five times”. However, the situation is by no means simple - any deal would need to be ratified by Congress, which consists of the House of Representatives and the Senate, and there are no guarantees, especially given the powerful Irish American lobby.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1160262/brexit-news-ireland-good-friday-agreement-irish-border-brexit-US-trade-deal-congress

phillw

Zuzel wrote: »

It's got to be much faster on our own.

Why? Are you suggesting that the EU negotiators are stupid or something? The EU look like really strong negotiators that will outperform us in every negotiation.

Or do you want to rush through a bad negotiation just to say you did it quicker?

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Historically the UK used to have a huge vehicle industry. (note vehicle not car). The industry has been in decline for decades. Early 70's , British Leyland alone directly employed some 250,000 people.

British Leyland was nationalised from all the failing companies, we didn't have a clue how to run the industry but politically the government decided that bailing it out was a better bet. It wasn't until foreign companies invested in us (because we were in the EU) and overhauled the working practices that the industry started working effectively.

Conina

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Historically the UK used to have a huge vehicle industry. (note vehicle not car). The industry has been in decline for decades. Early 70's , British Leyland alone directly employed some 250,000 people.

In the 60's over a million people were directly employed in Britain manufacturing vehicles producing almost two million per year, last year 186,000 were directly employed in manufacturing vehicles and 1.5 million were made and there's an even bigger change coming with the rise of electric vehicles because there are far less moving parts needed for each vehicle made. I saw that the Chevrolet Bolt for example used only 24 moving parts compared to the VW Golf's 149 because electric motors are much simpler than combustion engines, so it's pretty obvious that far more car jobs will go because of this change than Brexit, ask the Germans who are already losing many tens of thousands and who accept that hundreds of thousands of their Auto jobs are at risk and this is why they are facing severe recession.

Sailtheworld

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Historically the UK used to have a huge vehicle industry. (note vehicle not car). The industry has been in decline for decades. Early 70's , British Leyland alone directly employed some 250,000 people.

Thanks for putting it into context. Nothing to worry about then?