Social Work Assessments

whambam

Hello,

Are occupational therapy assessments different from support need assessments? In rules and law?

Anyone had either of these assessments?

nicetomeetyou

Yes they are different... the OT assessments can be used as evidence with social services care need assessment. My time with the OT meant his assessment was included in my care assessment which was the basis I got hours from SS.

whambam

What about previous OT assessment say 5 years ago done are they linked together with support needs assessments?

elsien

I don't think a 5 year old OT assessment would neccessarily be relevant for an up-to-date Care Act needs and wellbeing assessment. However a more up-to-date one could be requested as part of the assessment process. Or in some circumstances, the OT could carry out the assessment or work in conjunction with the social worker/other professionals.

whambam

So, i guess if you have had services from OT social workers then I guess it shows you have a need then you will score more points on the support needs assessment? Its points based not their opinion just like PIP.

elsien

whambam wrote: »

So, i guess if you have had services from OT social workers then I guess it shows you have a need then you will score more points on the support needs assessment? Its points based not their opinion just like PIP.

It's not based on points. It's based on your eligible needs at the time of the assessment and you have to have two or more to be fully assessed. Having a need 5 years ago doesn't mean that you still have the need, or if you do that it is affecting you in the same way. Someone may have had a health condition that no longer affects them. For example.
In some cases even if there is an eligible need, it doesn't always mean a service will be provided. You may be signposted to information or other services.

https://www.moneyadviceservice.org.uk/en/articles/how-a-local-authority-care-needs-assessment-works

poppy12345

whambam wrote: »

So, i guess if you have had services from OT social workers then I guess it shows you have a need then you will score more points on the support needs assessment? Its points based not their opinion just like PIP.

A needs assessment isn't about scoring points, it's about a person's individual care and support needs.



PIP is completely different.

whambam

i was advised by someone senior who works with the scottish government that its based on points and if you don't know the whole process and what to ask for and know your eligibility they will run you over and you will not get it.

elsien

whambam wrote: »

i was advised by someone senior who works with the scottish government that its based on points and if you don't know the whole process and what to ask for and know your eligibility they will run you over and you will not get it.

Why are you asking when you have already been through the process and are fully aware of what is involved?
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5980828/carers-assessments

Is this Andy/Flo under another guise, by any chance?
I'm out as far as this poster is concerned.

elsien

Post 4 in this one appears particularly pertinent.

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5970796/personal-budgets-in-education-from-local-authorities

You've allegedly been through the process, taken the outcome to the ombudsman, quoted the care act on the forum more than once and have a more than passing familiarity with direct payments.
This is therefore a completely pointless thread.

whambam

elsien wrote: »

Why are you asking when you have already been through the process and are fully aware of what is involved?
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5980828/carers-assessments

Is this Andy/Flo under another guise, by any chance?
I'm out as far as this poster is concerned.

No, I'm not Andy/flo. That process was for a carers assessment not OT or SN assessments.

elsien wrote: »

Post 4 in this one appears particularly pertinent.

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5970796/personal-budgets-in-education-from-local-authorities

You've allegedly been through the process, taken the outcome to the ombudsman, quoted the care act on the forum more than once and have a more than passing familiarity with direct payments.
This is therefore a completely pointless thread.

Thats regarding NHS and educational budgets which is a seperate set of rules and procedures.