Help with incorrect company details on Parking ticket

Greggy78

Hi Everyone,

Looking for some advice to resolve a parking ticket for a keeper.

The driver was caught parking on an industrial estate outside a gym which the driver used to be a member of. After cancelling their membership, they kept the parking pass and have parked there on a few occasions with no trouble over the past year. Unfortunately, they parked there recently, late at night, without realising the gym had closed as of Jan.

Despite the gym having closed and the people who were renting having moved on, the parking ticket still shows their company name and details. Surely they can't charge for parking outside a company which no longer occupies the property? Would this class as incorrect paperwork in the eyes of a court? Given that they have charged the keeper for parking outside the old gym, it's prudent to point out that the driver was displaying a pass for said company. The pass is clearly visible on the pictures they took of the keepers vehicle.

The keeper has received two letters from UKPC (which they ignored and have now missed the appeal window). They have since received two letters from Debt Recovery Plus (DRP). From reading various threads on this forum, I gather they are to ignore DRP and wait until they advise UKPC to take court proceedings. At which point UKPC will get in touch requesting payment again with a fresh opportunity to appeal?

Any thoughts on successfully appealing? How is a court likely to view this situation?

Quentin

Now too late for any appeals

All you can do is wait and see if they issue court proceedings

If it comes to that then come back at that time for advice on how to deal with this

Post #2 in the newbies FAQ thread advises on court claims

Throughout here you are advised never to reveal who was driving

You need to edit your post to remove details of who was driving

The ppcs monitor this forum and can use posts in your thread against you in Court

twhitehousescat

you need to ask the people who now run a business in the old gym , if they have continued with the contract with the PPC , and if so when did the contract start

Fruitcake

Parking on private land where you have no business to be is the reason these scammers exist.

In any case you should not have ignored the PCN/NTK you received. The advice to ignore has not been given here since the law changed in 2012.

You should edit your post to remove information about who parked or who got caught. Only ever refer to The Driver and The Keeper, who are two different people.

All you can do now is wait for six years to see if the scammers try court, which this company very often does.

This assumes the alleged event occurred in England or Wales.

Greggy78

The unit on the industrial estate is empty and showing a for let sign. Had the driver known the gym had closed they wouldn't have parked there (it was dark and they were rushing). The previous owner was happy for them to use the pass for parking outside of gym hours.

The final deadline issued by DRP hasn't yet passed. The keeper still has the option to pay £160. Do you advise doing so in this situation?

KeithP

Post #4 of the NEWBIES thread offers comprehensive guidance on how to deal with debt collectors letters.

twhitehousescat

Greggy78 wrote: »

The unit on the industrial estate is empty and showing a for let sign. Had the driver known the gym had closed they wouldn't have parked there (it was dark and he was rushing). The previous owner was happy for them to use the pass for parking outside of gym hours.

The final deadline issued by DRP hasn't yet passed. The driver still has the option to pay £160. Do you advise doing so in this situation?

and you have checked who is paying commercial rates for the site , and the date of change ?

and then contact them and ask if they know the ppc is operating on there land

Fruitcake

Greggy78 wrote: »

The unit on the industrial estate is empty and showing a for let sign. Had the driver known the gym had closed they wouldn't have parked there (it was dark and he was rushing). The previous owner was happy for them to use the pass for parking outside of gym hours.

The final deadline issued by DRP hasn't yet passed. The driver still has the option to pay £160. Do you advise doing so in this situation?

Debt crawlers have absolutely no powers in the UK other than to send out poor quality bog paper.

Nobody ever pays a debt collector unless they are medically certified as being stupid. So, do you have such a certificate?

MistyZ

As the whitehousescat suggests, you need to find out if the PPC still has authority to operate this car park, which means determining who owns or manages the land and contacting them.

Land Registry would be one route, it costs just a few quid to get the details. Alternatively are there any other businesses in the vicinity who you could ask?

The_Deep

Who may have rented the land in the past is of no consequence. It would have been the landowner who hired the PPC.

Nine times out of ten these tickets are scams so complain to your MP.

Parliament is well aware of the MO of these private parking companies, and on 15th March 2019 a Bill was enacted to curb the excesses of these shysters. Codes of Practice are being drawn up, an independent appeals service will be set up, and access to the DVLA's date base more rigorously policed, persistent offenders denied access to the DVLA database and unable to operate.

Hopefully life will become impossible for the worst of these scammers, but until this is done you should still complain to your MP, citing the new legislation.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2019/8/contents/enacted

Just as the clampers were finally closed down, so hopefully will many of these Private Parking Companies.

Redx

Greggy78 wrote: »

The final deadline issued by DRP hasn't yet passed. The driver still has the option to pay £160. Do you advise doing so in this situation?

That deadline is irrelevant, it's an arbitrary date set by sc@mmers which they will keep changing as it's plucked out of thin air. Nobody cares what drop say

And it's the Keeper receiving letters, not the driver

Nothing will resolve this unless a judge decides or 6 years go by