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Wheelie bin on driveway - neighbour dispute

Happytosave
Happytosave Posts: 73 Forumite
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edited 24 June 2019 at 8:44PM in House buying, renting & selling
We rent out the ground floor flat of 2 storey building. The new owners rent out the first floor. It is a mid terraced house and we own the back garden whereas the first floor have the right to park on the front driveway.
The owners above are disputing the use of 6 bins (3 each given by the council) on the driveway. There is nowhere else to put them as we there is no side passageway to go around the back.
My husband went around there recently and said there was a bush which is overgrown on the driveway to a become quite big but once removed that would create more space.

Our tenant who has been there 7 years have used the bins no problem. So I am asking what to do about the owners above who keep on asking to find a new place to put the bins! Do they have any rights? The lease plan doesn't show any bin storage area. There is a right of passage (narrow strip on the front driveway) but bins would be more unsightly there.

We can't really but them in the foyer as no one would be able to get into their flats.
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  • unforeseen
    unforeseen Posts: 7,375 Forumite
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    If the first floor own the drive then they have the right to say how it is used. You have the right to keep the bins on your property, not somebody elses
  • AdrianC
    AdrianC Posts: 42,189 Forumite
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    unforeseen wrote: »
    If the first floor own the drive then they have the right to say how it is used. You have the right to keep the bins on your property, not somebody elses
    Not necessarily that simple...

    Who is/are the freeholders, and what does the lease say about bin storage etc?
  • its_all_over
    its_all_over Posts: 183 Forumite
    unforeseen wrote: »
    If the first floor own the drive then they have the right to say how it is used. You have the right to keep the bins on your property, not somebody elses

    I’d agree, a comparison would be you storing your bins on your next door neighbours drive.
  • 00ec25
    00ec25 Posts: 9,123 Forumite
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    I’d agree, a comparison would be you storing your bins on your next door neighbours drive.
    your agreement is irrelevant, as stated by Adrian C, it is what is in the lease that matters
  • Happytosave
    Happytosave Posts: 73 Forumite
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    The lease doesn't say anything about bins. Bins have been stored on the front for many years.
  • unforeseen
    unforeseen Posts: 7,375 Forumite
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    What happens if they start parking a car on the drive. What happens to the bins in that situation?
  • Happytosave
    Happytosave Posts: 73 Forumite
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    They can actually park a decent sized vehicle on the driveway (a van) but they are saying that they want more space and are saying that our tenants bins have to go.
  • Happytosave
    Happytosave Posts: 73 Forumite
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    Both flats have share of the freehold
  • Alan2020
    Alan2020 Posts: 508 Forumite
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    How do you get to your back garden? Teleportation? Well you can take the bin the same way, what is so hard to figure out.

    Nobody has a right to leave their bins on someone else’s land. Just keep it indoors. If it won’t fit ask the council for a smaller bin!!

    A lot of terraced houses don’t have a side access to the garden. You ask for a flexible garden waste bag instead of a wheelie bin and bring it out on bin day. Sadly that’s what happens when you buy a flat that was converted illegally or in ancient times.

    The hardworking council bin staff won’t know the ins and out of every house.
  • davidmcn
    davidmcn Posts: 23,596 Forumite
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    edited 24 June 2019 at 10:10PM
    The lease doesn't say anything about bins.
    Well, what does the lease say? Do you have any rights over the driveway?

    And in any event, do two flats need six bins? I live in a building of three flats, and we managed to get down to just four bins.
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