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Received notice for planning permission

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  • yoshiyella
    yoshiyella Posts: 610 Forumite
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    Also their drawings does not show the tree in their garden and they have said it is just concrete and stored materials
  • POPPYOSCAR
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    Browntoa wrote: »
    Look at your councils own rules concerning minimum parking requirements for properties , it's particularly relevant if the property was built with a garage but it's already been converted ( all the better if you can find no planning permission for it )

    Look at the drawings to see if any new windows would look straight into yours particularly if it's a bathroom or bedroom. In that case mention this and suggest that either there is no window or it's frosted glass for privacy

    A house was bought at the end of our high street.

    They applied to build several flats with no parking.

    The council turned it down saying they could build 4 flats with parking.

    The developers took it to appeal and won
  • TonyMMM
    TonyMMM Posts: 3,433 Forumite
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    edited 8 June 2019 at 10:12AM
    Find out what your councils planning policies are, and make sure that each of your objections clearly relate to those policies and are referenced to it.

    Don't fall into the emotional trap that most objectors do and end up saying how terrible it is going to be and how it will devalue their property ( that isn't a factor).

    Applicants often start with a scheme they don't expect to get and will be ready to reapply with an amended/reduced plan addressing any reasons for refusal each time it fails, maybe a number of times, and one will eventually get accepted (or allowed on appeal), so be prepared for that.
  • Doozergirl
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    You're looking to Google 'supplementary planning guidance' and the name of your local council.

    They will have a .pdf design guide on their planning pages which is downloadable and will provide the local guidance with regard to size of extensions, orientation, the lines between them and neighbouring houses. Also it will have the rules on minimum parking provision.

    You need to refer directly to that.

    There will also be another document on their Streategic planning pages called the LDP - Local Development Plan. That will also talk about things like subdivision of houses/plots - whether that is acceptable at all - and what sort of build is appropriate in and around the district/borough.

    If you want a well considered objection, you have to put in the groundwork for it.

    You can also check the map on the planning portal for any subdivision applications that may have been turned down. Read the planning officers reports and note their language.

    I've recently done one for an application for 6 new houses next door to us on garden land. The developers have literally made stuff up so I've had to unpick an awful lot of mistruths and omissions. I have the benefit of some planning knowledge and it wasn't easy.

    Just don't write emotive stuff. It doesn't wash. I'm objecting next door but some of the objections just made me roll my eyes. Good for nothing other than numbers of objections.
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  • yoshiyella
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    Doozergirl wrote: »
    You're looking to Google 'supplementary planning guidance' and the name of your local council.

    They will have a .pdf design guide on their planning pages which is downloadable and will provide the local guidance with regard to size of extensions, orientation, the lines between them and neighbouring houses. Also it will have the rules on minimum parking provision.

    You need to refer directly to that.

    There will also be another document on their Streategic planning pages called the LDP - Local Development Plan. That will also talk about things like subdivision of houses/plots - whether that is acceptable at all - and what sort of build is appropriate in and around the district/borough.

    If you want a well considered objection, you have to put in the groundwork for it.

    You can also check the map on the planning portal for any subdivision applications that may have been turned down. Read the planning officers reports and note their language.

    I've recently done one for an application for 6 new houses next door to us on garden land. The developers have literally made stuff up so I've had to unpick an awful lot of mistruths and omissions. I have the benefit of some planning knowledge and it wasn't easy.

    Just don't write emotive stuff. It doesn't wash. I'm objecting next door but some of the objections just made me roll my eyes. Good for nothing other than numbers of objections.


    I know this is nit picking but they have said on their forms that property is not currently vacant and that there are no trees on the property yet the property is empty and there is a protected tree at the end of their garden. Can we mention this as well or is that just being (no idea what the word is) picky?!
  • Doozergirl
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    yoshiyella wrote: »
    The drawings only shows three sides - the front the back and the right hand side so the wall that would be on the left side that over looks our property is not showing.

    You can work it out from three sides. The wall nearest you is definitely a wall featuring on the the rear elevation, even if it isn't in detail.

    It only 'overlooks' if it has clear glass windows, which it won't because planning laws prohibit clear glass windows on side elevations (unless you're in that there London where privacy has long gone). Overshadowing would be a valid issue - but the rules for that will be in the SPG that I suggested you find.

    This is our main LDP page:
    https://www.bromsgrove.gov.uk/council/policy-and-strategy/planning-policies/local-development-plan.aspx
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  • Doozergirl
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    edited 8 June 2019 at 10:21AM
    yoshiyella wrote: »
    I know this is nit picking but they have said on their forms that property is not currently vacant and that there are no trees on the property yet the property is empty and there is a protected tree at the end of their garden. Can we mention this as well or is that just being (no idea what the word is) picky?!

    Empty isn't important.

    The tree is if the build falls under or very close to the canopy.

    That's exactly one of our issues and the tree officer isn't happy. They removed the ones that would have had a TPO put on them, but I think now the tree officer is looking at protecting others instead. I know the developer is having to review the application based on trees and highways, which I made a big song and dance about. Highways not so many potential issues for two dwellings, but again, there will be rules in the SPG and also in Manual for Streets, to be found elsewhere, which talks of visibility splays for vehicles egressing driveways.
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  • yoshiyella
    yoshiyella Posts: 610 Forumite
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    Just looked at a declined application on the road for a detatched property to be split in to two flats and this was one of the comments:


    The development would, by reason of the dwelling siting, height and proximity to the boundaries of the plot, give rise to a cramped appearance and overdevelopment of the site, which would be harmful to the garden scene and character of the surrounding area contrary to Policy DC61 of the LDF Core Strategy and Development Control Policies DPD and the Residential Extensions and Alterations SPD.


    Can we word it like this?
  • yoshiyella
    yoshiyella Posts: 610 Forumite
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    Doozergirl wrote: »
    Empty isn't important.

    The tree is if the build falls under or very close to the canopy.


    Thank you :)
  • Browntoa
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    Yes , mention any errors in their application

    We spotted the illegal garage conversion from their own drawings and mentioned there was no document to show it was done with planning permission. The application was ammended to include retrospective application.

    If the tree is protected it should be registered with the council , see if you can identify it's reference number and quote that
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