How to reduce rat running

motorguy

charlotte_rose wrote: »

The council are encouraging residents and organisations to give feedback through a series of local meetings.

They want to keep traffic on the main roads, off residential ones and encourage fewer car journeys.

Anyone had first hand experience of traffic calming solutions in their own local area?

Great!

But maybe they need to put in place viable alternatives for people to use?

Scrapit

forgotmyname wrote: »

Leave Council planning to do their jobs, are you sure?

They painted the lines on a local roundabout 5 or 6 times at a cost of over £15,000 a time. Maybe it was gold paint?

Dual carriageway where 99% of the traffic go straight on or turn right, they made the left hand lane left turn only. And it's a large busy roundabout.

Caused many problems, traffic queued back for miles. People used the left turn lane to go straight on and some even turned right. Lots of queue jumpers and people forcing their way in just yards from the roundabout.

Seems the people that designed the layout had never seen or used the actual road.

sure? Im absolutely certain. Main reason being there isnt any one else thats gonna impliment it so regardless of what the layman "thinks" itll be the local authority that will do anything if at all about it.

Car_54 wrote: »

Quite right. There should be no discussion of any government policies or decisions. Exemplary jail sentences for dissenters.

this is neither. And the jail stuff- obsessed. Wanna be copper.

Johno100 wrote: »

That might have been OK a couple of decades ago when getting traffic to flow smoothly and efficiently was a priority for road planners and engineers. Now it seems slowing vehicles down to 'protect' the dozy Darwin award seeking 'vulnerable road users' seems to be the mantra.

See my first point.

Jackmydad

motorguy wrote: »

Great!

But maybe they need to put in place viable alternatives for people to use?

That requires forward thinking and planning. Most of the government stuff I seem to see is "fire fighting" simply reacting to the present problem, with no thought so "unintended consequences"

"Too many people using this road, naughty, nasty people in cars trying to get to work!
Let's put 63 signs up, innumerable chicanes, 14 double mini roundabouts,, and a set of traffic light just in case."
That'll fix the problem. . .

motorguy

Jackmydad wrote: »

"Too many people using this road, naughty, nasty people in cars trying to get to work!
Let's put 63 signs up, innumerable chicanes, 14 double mini roundabouts,, and a set of traffic light just in case."
That'll fix the problem. . .

Indeed

"Traffic calming" consists of slowing the traffic down even further, further frustrating drivers.

Where i used to live there was a 10 mile stretch between our village and the main arterial motorway. There was maybe 3 good overtaking points on it where you could overtake the odd tractor or very slow moving vehicle. No, no! Lets put chevrons down the middle of the road on those bits. Traffic calming! So now everybody sits in a little row behind whatever the slowing moving vehicle is.

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You should always be careful what you wish for


In my street there were many complaints to "The council" because the school at the top of the road used to let the coaches drive up our road and unload inside the school grounds- so the result was we got speed humps that coaches can't get over, that break our springs


Then we becaime prisoners in our houses for 2 hours a day whilst all the SUVs blocked the roads dropping off and collecting kids who frankly, look as if they could do with the exercise of walking to school, (who couldn't before because the coaches kept smashing into them, and the Police came a few times to move them on and keep the road clear) and after many more complaints, we get loads of double yellow lines down the street.


Which is nice, as I can actually get off my drive now, but I can't go anywhere, as all the SUVs are parked solid literally from the end of the double yellows all round the estate.


The double yellows cut down on the number of visitors I get too, so they are not a bad thing I suppose

motorguy

I have to say if i was buying a home in a development / estate i'd be doing my due diligence on traffic and traffic flow and many other things before i bought it.

Prevention of it being a problem for you, is better than trying to find a cure.

bankhall

However I hate the term rat running. Roads are provided to allow vehicles to move between two places, why stop people doing so?

totally agree where i live the council thanks too nimbys have restricted scores of roads access so now no matter what time we have traffic jams because of this :rotfl:iheard someone complain that it takes an extra 10 mins and 4 miles now to get onto his street and he had never applied for a rat-run closure:T

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motorguy wrote: »

I have to say if i was buying a home in a development / estate i'd be doing my due diligence on traffic and traffic flow and many other things before i bought it.

Prevention of it being a problem for you, is better than trying to find a cure.

Don't ever buy one near a station, hospital, school, nursery, religious building or cemetery, or with a bus stop at the end of the garden either

Johno100

facade wrote: »

Don't ever buy one near a station, hospital, school, nursery, religious building or cemetery, or with a bus stop at the end of the garden either

Yet often such properties attract a premium when they change hands, strange old world.

motorguy

facade wrote: »

Don't ever buy one near a station, hospital, school, nursery, religious building or cemetery, or with a bus stop at the end of the garden either

Oh indeed. Sometimes you need to make yourself aware of these things and then decide if you can live with them as you're very likely to be able to change them.

We built our house on land family land beside a primary school. Around 13:00 and 15:00 its carnage outside however we're not there because we're both at work and when we are there we just make a point of not going in or out at those times.

Not a pups chance we can change it though.

For some other people it might be a real problem, however it impacts us very little and we work around it