Unsolicited Goods?!

Blackbeard_of_Perranporth

CraigMatthews wrote: »

Hi there, I was talking to a man regarding the sale of a jacket. We spoke about a price. I sent him my address so we could calculate shipping costs and work out a deal. He came back to me with a figure to which I responded "I'll think about it." About a week later he has posted the product without my knowledge and is telling me that I am to pay him now that it has been delivered. He is threatening to involve authorities or even come to my address to retrieve the product. Am I within my rights to keep the product, not return it and pay for it?

CraigMatthews wrote: »

I was under the belief that if a product has been delivered to me without my intention and knowledge that I have every right to keep this? This is only what I have read from the Unsolicited Goods Act 1971

CraigMatthews wrote: »

No I simply made an enquiry. He was only given the address to calculate shipping costs. We never confirmed a deal. He sent the item and presumed I was just going to pay.

How did the seller get you address?
How come you only need to know the shipping costs?


I take it that OP wants the jacket for Buckshee?

Jumblebumble

stragglebod wrote: »

They're not unsolicited. That's kind of the point.


Assuming all is as the OP says then he can't keep the jacket for free, but at the same time our jacket merchant can't insist he buys it. Keep it and pay, or send it back (at 'seller's' expense).

Please could you define your understanding of unsolicited
I mean dictionary rather that part of an act
PS I gave you a definition that clearly applies to the the OP's situation
Something that is unsolicited has been given without being asked for
My understanding is that the OP did not ask for the jacket but enquired about possible shipping costs

KatrinaWaves

Jumblebumble wrote: »

Please could you define your understanding of unsolicited
I mean dictionary rather that part of an act
PS I gave you a definition that clearly applies to the the OP's situation
Something that is unsolicited has been given without being asked for
My understanding is that the OP did not ask for the jacket but enquired about possible shipping costs

A dictionary definition of unsolicited is one thing. No one is disputing that the OP did not pay and did not intend for the items to be sent to him, hence why he should claim back postage costs. However, he did ask about the items and provide enough info for them to be posted to him 'by mistake'

This is not the same as 'unsolicited goods' which have a fixed meaning in law and these goods are clearly not 'unsolicited' which is all that matters in this case. It does not cover items sent by mistake.

DoaM

Jumblebumble wrote: »

Please could you define your understanding of unsolicited
I mean dictionary rather that part of an act

A dictionary definition is entirely irrelevant, as it is the legislative definition that matters.

Manxman_in_exile

Jumblebumble wrote: »

Please could you define your understanding of unsolicited
I mean dictionary rather that part of an act
PS I gave you a definition that clearly applies to the the OP's situation
Something that is unsolicited has been given without being asked for
My understanding is that the OP did not ask for the jacket but enquired about possible shipping costs

OP's first sentence says that he "spoke to a man regarding the sale of a jacket." Rather strange phraseology, I agree, but I don't think he was just asking about "shipping costs" (again a strange choice of words).

unholyangel

Jumblebumble wrote: »

Please could you define your understanding of unsolicited
I mean dictionary rather that part of an act
PS I gave you a definition that clearly applies to the the OP's situation
Something that is unsolicited has been given without being asked for
My understanding is that the OP did not ask for the jacket but enquired about possible shipping costs

Even the dictionary definition doesn't support them being unsolicited.

That definition doesn't say goods sent to you without you agreeing to buy them. Asking for quite literally (if you're going by dictionary definitions) means you pose a question to someone - which OP seems to have done.

DCFC79

OP just let him come and collect the jacket.

Why on earth did you engage in conversation with him about the jacket, why not buy 1 brand new.

Manxman_in_exile

I'm absolutely desperate to know what this jacket is to have caused such a kerfuffle!


How do you get into a conversation with "a man" (:huh:) about buying a jacket and give him your address so he can calculate the "shipping costs"? Is it some sort of uber-jacket* once worn by Mick Jagger or somebody?


OP isn't coming back, is he?


EDIT: * can't be as "the man" seems to have relinquished custody of it quite easily!

Manxman_in_exile

Perhaps it's one of the Hi-Vis jackets worn by "Basil" and his mates during the Hatton Garden job, and the "man" is actually a "fence".


That would explain the significance of calculating the shipping costs as any gold bars in the pockets would be very heavy. Need to account for insurance too, in case the jacket (or pocket contents) went missing.

stragglebod

Manxman_in_exile wrote: »

and give him your address so he can calculate the "shipping costs"?

Did you not know that postage prices are calculated uniquely for every letterbox in the UK?

Ever wondered why the queues are so long at the post office? It's because somebody's asked for a second class stamp and the cashier is having to scroll through a printed list of 20 million UK addresses to find the correct amount to charge.