1year old van from ford dealer - one bald tyre

Mercdriver

eamon wrote: »

He didn't so a moot point.

He risked it though, when getting the dealer to fulfill his responsibilities would have removed that risk, that was my point. It is generally a bad idea to deal with a problem like this yourself as it gives the dealer a way out of sorting it out.

Inner_Zone

Mistermeaner wrote: »

Some weird questions but thanks

FYI dealer agreed to reimburse us cost of changing it locally so we’ll go ahead. Nb they had apparently noted the tyre and ordered a replacement but omitted to change it hence marking it as ok on the vehicle check sheet

To answer some questions ;

- gave van once over but didn’t think to even check the tyres given it’s only got 9k on it and these were explicitly ticked in the 160 point pre sale inspection . Also haven’t checked the brakes wipers screen wash battery oil level water level etc

- van has 8 seats ; but even if it only had 5 that’s still enough room for 4 kids! Not sure what relevance this has but thanks for your input

- yes drove it back from quik fit ; it’s 0.5miles from home and on the school run route. Plus it’s dry today and all on 30mph roads

- yes giving dealer chance to do something; we can cancel quikfit - just seemed better all round that we fix and they reimburse us

Thanks all for input

Sounds like a minbus?

CardinalWolsey

For future reference for others reading this thread: this is the one time you have to think of the children...

Taking a vehicle you know not to be road legal - especially with a fault that could have dire consequences under emergency braking - on a school run: i.e. carrying children in to an area where there is a concentration of even more children (quite possibly not paying close attention to the road), is pure folly. Don't do it.

DUTR

eamon wrote: »

He didn't so a moot point.

It's not a moot point, one should be checking the tyres lights wipers and a few other things before each journey, naturally many of us do not, however the tone of the story, those should be checked before leaving the dealership (there was no hurry as paperwork n stuff to be sorted).
As it suits the OP has to run the kids around but then still transports them in said vehicle , not forgetting he may have injured another pedestrian or road user.
Trouble with posts like this the OP is just looking for a fight rather than resolve an issue quickly.

motorguy

Mercdriver wrote: »

He risked it though, when getting the dealer to fulfill his responsibilities would have removed that risk, that was my point. It is generally a bad idea to deal with a problem like this yourself as it gives the dealer a way out of sorting it out.

Particularly when playing the but think of the children card.

Mistermeaner

thanks all for input - thats why we post such questions to gather the views of others

For what its worth I didn't 'play the children card' - the van was loaded with kids when the tyre was noticed and a decision taken to chance the 3mile round trip to do school run with plan to go the kwikfit on way back.

Possibly a poor decision but thats what I did and I think it was the correct decision and would do so again (alternative would have meant not getting the kids to school)

Van has not moved since as kwikfit won't have the tyre until thurs; I'll then drive it the half mile to get the tyre replaced - again an acceptable risk IMO

I didn't play the kids card or demand anything from the dealer - I politely pointed out to them the issue, stated I didn't want to drive the 60mile round trip to them to get it sorted and instead proposed what I felt was a better solution all round that I sort the tyre locally and they reimburse me

I didn't demand anything or commit to a course of action that could not be reversed

They agreed to the proposed solution and I am putting this in action now

I would not do anything differently if the situation arose again.

Takmon

Mistermeaner wrote: »

I would not do anything differently if the situation arose again.

So you wouldn't check the vehicle over before you drive it away next time you buy one?

Mercdriver

Mistermeaner wrote: »

thanks all for input - thats why we post such questions to gather the views of others

For what its worth I didn't 'play the children card' - the van was loaded with kids when the tyre was noticed and a decision taken to chance the 3mile round trip to do school run with plan to go the kwikfit on way back.

Possibly a poor decision but thats what I did and I think it was the correct decision and would do so again (alternative would have meant not getting the kids to school)

Van has not moved since as kwikfit won't have the tyre until thurs; I'll then drive it the half mile to get the tyre replaced - again an acceptable risk IMO

I didn't play the kids card or demand anything from the dealer - I politely pointed out to them the issue, stated I didn't want to drive the 60mile round trip to them to get it sorted and instead proposed what I felt was a better solution all round that I sort the tyre locally and they reimburse me

I didn't demand anything or commit to a course of action that could not be reversed

They agreed to the proposed solution and I am putting this in action now

I would not do anything differently if the situation arose again.

Are you aware of the risks involved with having one bald tyre, especially with children on board? Are they all your children?

Mistermeaner

what are the risk?



when you say "are they all [my] children?" do you mean;

(i) did I put all the kids I have in the van

or

(ii) were all the children in the van of my loin

?

Mistermeaner

Takmon wrote: »

So you wouldn't check the vehicle over before you drive it away next time you buy one?

depends on situation; when buying a 1year old vehicle from a main dealer that comes with warranties up to the eye balls I would happily buy blind trusting in the ability to retrospectively claim for issues

As previously I didn't check the brakes, the screen wash, the wipers, or that the aircon works, or the heated seats, or the electric seats, or that the removeable seat mechanisms work or that the screen defroster works (it wasn't icy) or the lights, or the hazards, or the suspension, or the cam belt or the ECU mapping, or the under carriage or that the mileage was genuine or the paint on the roof (too high) or that the glove box was empty.

I made sure the paperwork was in order, the spare key was present, the lock nut was present and how various things like the tyre inflation kit works, how to access the add-blue top up

I challenge anyone to honestly put their hand up and claim that each time they drive a vehicle they give it a once over (I drive hire cars with work all the time - ive learned to check them for paint damage to avoid repair bills but don't ever check tyres)

I have also had numerous blow outs over the years (all from punctures in very legal tyres) and I know what happens when a tyre rapdily deflates - going at speed can be scary but manageable, going at 30 barely noticeable apart from handling going funny.

PS all tyres on the van are run flats - pretty standard I think on newer vehicles particularly those without a spare (which is also very common nowadays)