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Greenenergy
Greenenergy Posts: 43 Forumite
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I am due to move to a new energy provider. EDF have advised they will install a v2 meter, but British gas confirm if will be a v1 or v2.

Is it the case that different providers still install v1 meters or would British Gas be a v2 also?
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  • JJ_Egan
    JJ_Egan Posts: 20,281 Forumite
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    Two different companies EDF and BG .
    Who knows if they are still installing V1.


    PS what is a V1 .
  • Greenenergy
    Greenenergy Posts: 43 Forumite
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    My understanding is they are both SMETs but V1 cannot easily be moved between providers whereas the V2 can.
  • JJ_Egan
    JJ_Egan Posts: 20,281 Forumite
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    Ah V1 is Smets 1.
    Yes Smets 1 may not be movable .
  • Mister_G
    Mister_G Posts: 1,946 Forumite
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    You are quite correct

    V1 = SMETS1
    V2 = SMETS2

    Apparently some of the later SMETS1 meters will get a software update to enable them to become smart again with any (most) supplier. When this is likely to happen, no one really seems to know, including the DCC!

    A SMETS2 meter should retain its smart capabilities between supplier changes.
  • atticgirl2003
    atticgirl2003 Posts: 464 Forumite
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    Any idea when Bulb Energy are rolling out smart meters.
  • Smart_Energy_GB
    Smart_Energy_GB Posts: 14 Organisation Representative
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    If you have a smart meter the process for switching suppliers is exactly the same as it is if you have a traditional meter, and you don’t need to get new smart meters if you switch suppliers. SMETS 2 meters allow customers to switch suppliers and keep full smart functionality.

    We know that many people with a first-generation smart meter retain some or all of their smart function when they switch suppliers. At this point in the rollout you may find that if you switch supplier your smart meter could temporarily lose smart function, and you may need to send in your meter readings in order to get an accurate bill (just as you would with traditional meters).

    If your meter loses smart functionality this can be frustrating, but this is a temporary situation. First-generation smart meters which have already been installed will soon be enrolled into the new secure smart data network 'over the air' without needing a visit from an installer. This process is due to start in summer of this year, and is due to be completed by the end of the rollout. These smart meters will then be able to deliver all the benefits of smart, with any supplier. :o
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  • Its summer now !. There are forum members on here who have cast doubt as to the possibility of SMETS1 smart meters being capable of OTA upgrade to SMETS2.
    We eagerly await the first news of this actually happening.
  • Bark01
    Bark01 Posts: 892 Forumite
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    Suppliers are no longer allowed to install new S1 meters, do you should get an S2 meter no matter who you are with.

    There is a derogation that allows some S1 installs to continue in the north as there are network issues that impact early S2 meters connectivity, but newer S2 meters don’t have that issue so the derogation will end soon
  • badmemory
    badmemory Posts: 9,559 Forumite
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    Bark01 wrote: »
    Suppliers are no longer allowed to install new S1 meters, do you should get an S2 meter no matter who you are with.

    There is a derogation that allows some S1 installs to continue in the north as there are network issues that impact early S2 meters connectivity, but newer S2 meters don’t have that issue so the derogation will end soon


    Do you have this in writing - as in will not fit 1st gen meters & must fit 2nd gen meters? Does this mean that any 2nd gen meter fitted must actually work AS a 2nd gen meter?


    If you think I don't trust "them" then you would be right. So prove me wrong!
  • Chino
    Chino Posts: 2,031 Forumite
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    Houbara wrote: »
    Its summer now !.
    In which country?

    "When is summer?
    Summer in the meteorological calendar covers the duration of June, July and August, or by the astronomical calendar it begins around 21 June on a day referred to as the summer solstice.
    https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/learn-about/weather/seasons/summer
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