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  • Received their WS. Just started skimming the whole 62 pages...
    they 'aver' that they have not since changed their signage and then include images of their machines before and after the additional sign was added. How best to draw attention to this?
    Chin up.
  • Also sent our W/S by post to GS and delivered by hand to the court. I have proof of postage but should I also email a copy?
    Chin up.
  • Coupon-mad
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    Received their WS. Just started skimming the whole 62 pages...
    they 'aver' that they have not since changed their signage and then include images of their machines before and after the additional sign was added. How best to draw attention to this?
    At the hearing, address the Judge when it is your turn and point it out!

    Also take my court report fro Southampton as a crib sheet and repeat the same 1, 2, 3, that I did, as it is not just about the CRA 2015, it's also the POFA para 4(5)& 4(6), and the Beavis case paras 98, 193 and 198, which when taken together or separately ALL kick out the 'double recovery' of counting the operational costs twice.

    ALL COSTS (except the court fees) are already in the parking charge.
    Also sent our W/S by post to GS and delivered by hand to the court. I have proof of postage but should I also email a copy?
    No need, but take your proof of posting to the court in your bundle in case the rep tries to lie about not receiving it.
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  • G/S sent a letter stating that their client would not be attending and that they have informed the court that they would like the court to decide the case based on the evidence submitted.
    What does this mean? Will a GS rep still be there?
    Chin up.
  • Umkomaas
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    Standard BS. The PPC (their client) won't be there, but a hired hand might. Work on the basis that there will be some representation.

    If they've asked for the case to be 'heard on the papers', you need to state that you object to this as a personal hearing is the most sensible way to resolve this.

    But, of course, you already know that, because it's all covered in the NEWBIES FAQ sticky, post #2 ..... don't you? It just saves us having to type all this shiite out yet again - ad nauseam.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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  • Hi yes,
    We refused the hearing on papers. We wanted a hearing locally.
    I imagined that it may be some kind of further game playing
    Chin up.
  • beamerguy
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    G/S sent a letter stating that their client would not be attending and that they have informed the court that they would like the court to decide the case based on the evidence submitted.
    What does this mean? Will a GS rep still be there?

    Probably based on your defence they have decided it's a no go.

    Gladstones cannot be trusted. The ideal thing is to discontinue

    It is normally a rep, not the PPC. Either from GS or a hired gun

    CEL pulled a trick like this a while ago saying similar and then turned up in court.

    You can take no chances and should attend court. If it's just you and the judge it would just be a formality for the judge to dismiss the case and you claim your costs. Do remember that Gladstones have been a "no show" before and also the courts know all about Gladstones dismal timewasting claims
  • Thanks Beamerguy. We'll be there. I'm not sure how to prep a skeleton? But I am making notes tearing apart all the hypocrisy in their WS and prepping up an AOP submission- but will give it my best to present well.
    Chin up.
  • beamerguy
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    Thanks Beamerguy. We'll be there. I'm not sure how to prep a skeleton? But I am making notes tearing apart all the hypocrisy in their WS and prepping up an AOP submission- but will give it my best to present well.

    See how these scammers operate, Gladstones are no different.
    https://parking-prankster.blogspot.com/2014/11/civil-enforcement-limited-turn-up-in.html

    As they might be a no show, a judge would not waste much time on their statement. More so, it would be your statement and in particular, ABUSE OF PROCESS and what judges are saying about the scam, it should be an easy decision for a judge to make.

    I must admit, I envy you, bringing these idiots to task
  • So. In court on Monday. Can someone explain in lay terms why consumer notices are not exempt to the fairness test under the CRA?
    I have worked out that it is because the £60 is not transparent?
    I can't work out the business about the 'core exemption'. I would feel more confident if I was able to explain it- in case I have to.
    Chin up.
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