Fistral Beach Car Park (Initial Parking) - Newbie template wins!

Hardnox

Hi guys


Appologies for starting a new thread (cant post links either)
I have had a look through the newbies section and a few threads that I think relate to my case.


As a summary, the carpark was packed and spent the whole time there looking for a space to open, got frustrated and eventually went to another beach



Im at the point of making my appeal and just want to make sure I'm on the right track. Im aware of not giving driver details.



From what I've read I think I have a golden ticket as NTK arrived 18 days after the charge and no mention of POFA


imgur.com/iCRFjbE


Can I use the appeal in this thread or should I stick to the newbies one?


forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5684787#topofpage


On the Initial Parking website appeals page the dropdown is confusing me a bit too, I feel they are being sneaky and not giving many choices, please advise.


imgur.com/9tnGMcQ


Thank you in advance

Umkomaas

https://m.imgur.com/iCRFjbE

You don’t actually show us enough of the NtK to absolutely confirm it doesn’t meet strict PoFA requirements, can we have full views?

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5684787/holy-trinity-church-newquay#topofpage

That’s a thread from almost 2 years ago. Go with the NEWBIES FAQ sticky, post #1 appeal (unaltered), get your POPLA Code and get it killed there.

https://imgur.com/9tnGMcQ

Do they offer appeals via email? Or via a letter?

Please confirm that this is Initial Parking, as it’s the first mention I’ve seen of them at Fistral Beach?

The_Deep

the carpark was packed and spent the whole time there looking for a space to open, got frustrated and eveually went to another beach

If you did not park you did notr enter into a contract, therefore there can be no breach of contract, read this

https://parking-prankster.blogspot.com/2014/04/transcript-donated-approved-judgment.html

They are obviously trying to scam you so complain to your MP.

Parliament is well aware of the MO of these private parking companies, and on 15th March 2019 a Bill was enacted to curb the excesses of these shysters. Codes of Practice are being drawn up, an independent appeals service will be set up, and access to the DVLA's date base more rigorously policed, and persistent offenders denied access. Hopefully life will become impossible for the worst of these scammers.

Until this is done you should still complain to your MP, citing the new legislation.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2019/8/contents/enacted

Just as the clampers were finally closed down, so hopefully will many of these Private Parking Companies.

Fruitcake

One of those images shows a sentence highlighted that gives away the driver's identity. This would blow a golden ticket out the water.

https://imgur.com/9tnGMcQ

Look for an option such as "Other".

The Fistral area shows car parks operated by Smart, Parking Lie, Euro Car Parks, CRAPCOA, Headland Hotel, Morrisons, and the local Council.

I cannot find a single mention of Initial Parking operating in the area.

OP, please confirm the area where the alleged event took place.

Umkomaas

Do they offer appeals via email? Or via a letter?

From their appeals portal on their website:

You can also appeal by post on our address: Suite 83, 51 Pinfold Street, Birmingham B2 4AY

First class post from your Post Office counter with free Certificate of Posting which provides enough legal proof that your letter was delivered by the second working day following posting.

Hardnox

Wow thank you for all the replies guys!

Part of the reason I decided to make a new post was because I couldn't really find anything on Initial Parking at Fistral beach in any of the more recent posts. Then on the appeals page, it felt like they are trying to catch you out by only giving those set options...

Umkomaas wrote: »

"You don’t actually show us enough of the NtK"


"That’s a thread from almost 2 years ago. Go with the NEWBIES FAQ sticky"

Please see new pictures of entire front and back. Personal info redacted.

imgur.com/KKB5wQh
imgur.com/G7pYg4x

I'll grab that template, its just a case of the choices they give me on that dropdown. Should I just opt for a letter instead?

Fruitcake wrote: »

"Look for an option such as "Other""


"OP, please confirm the area where the alleged event took place"

The image with options that I posted shows all the available options.
To confirm it's Fistral beach, you can see on the letter in the images in this post.

Fruitcake

Your images made live.

http://imgur.com/KKB5wQh

http://imgur.com/G7pYg4x

If there is no online option that doesn't reveal the driver's identity, then send a postal appeal as it gives you that option on the NTK.

Coupon-mad

What the heck are a nonentity firm like 'Initial Parking' doing at Fistral Beach?

Were Smart kicked out?

Is there really no 'OTHER' option as I really don't recommend a postal appeal.

What about the last option: 'THERE WAS NO SIGNAGE'?

That choice looks like the one I'd use (it will be wrong but does no damage!). It might also get a reply that shows us the signs there.

Fascinated to see a new kid on the block (beach) get beaten at POPLA!

Fruitcake

I can't find any reference to IP at Fistral, but there over a dozen car parks around the area so it is possible they have sneaked into one somewhere. Perhaps the OP could be more specific as to the location of the car park and landowner.

The NTK is non POFA compliant so should be an easy win at PoPLA. The scammers also tell lies in their NTK. Imagine my surprise.

Get your own pics of the site and signs if possible.

Without seeing the online appeals portal I can't comment on what's available, but the NTK definitely allows a postal appeal. If there is no other option then that should be done by sending it first class from a Post Office counter, and obtaining a free proof of postage.

edit

Yes, go with the no signage option and see what the scammers say.

Hardnox

Thank you Fruitcake, will get that posted first thing tomorrow then.


Just to be 100% sure, its the following template I need to send off

"Template appeal for BPA or IPC members - copy this wording into the online appeal box::

Re PCN number:

I dispute your 'parking charge', as the keeper of the vehicle. I deny any liability or contractual agreement and I will be making a formal complaint about your predatory conduct to your client landowner and to my MP.

Coupon-mad

well yes...!