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Malicious fraud reports

EvilGremlin
EvilGremlin Posts: 6 Forumite
edited 30 May 2019 at 4:26AM in Benefits & tax credits
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  • Neil_Jones
    Neil_Jones Posts: 9,662 Forumite
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    If you can honestly say there is no benefit fraud going on and that the claim is 100% genuine, then let it get investigated and cleared.

    Persistent reports of fraud where its non genuine could be classed as harassment but like everything else the police would need to be able to prove it.

    This article from 2016 might be of interest for background purposes:
    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/feb/27/false-benefit-fraud-allegations
  • Its a difficult one and as Neil rightly says if there is no fraud then don't worry about it, you would hope that the DWP would start to question "reports" of fraud coming from the same source on a repeated basis.
  • suki1964
    suki1964 Posts: 14,313 Forumite
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    Getting along with your neighbours is always a good start

    Lighting fires in the Garden on a "regular basis " really isn't the way to go about that Im afraid

    Im not saying the neighbours retaliation is right, just suggesting they went this route because maybe they felt you weren't really approachable ?

    Im not saying you are wrong, but sometimes you do have to stand back. look at your own behaviour and see where perhaps mistakes were made and where bridges can be built
  • Blackpool_Saver
    Blackpool_Saver Posts: 6,599 Forumite
    Shouldn't be burning stuff in the garden it's bad for everyone's health, just not on
    Blackpool_Saver is female, and does not live in Blackpool

  • TELLIT01
    TELLIT01 Posts: 18,250 Forumite
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    I don't understand why they are regularly burning rubbish in the garden either. The council will take almost anything, and there will be a local(ish) recycling centre in most areas. That doesn't justify threats from the neighbours though.
    Even if the reports to the various authorities, suspecting fraudulent activity, were not anonymous the OP would not be told who had made the report. Many are made in good faith even when there is no fraud actually taking place. The authorities can't know which reports are genuine and which malicious until they have investigated. Although I can understand the frustration felt by the OP there really isn't much they can do apart from try to improve the relationship with the neighbours. Stopping having the fires in the garden would be a good start point.
    We have lived in our house for over 30 years and count the number of bonfires we have had on the fingers of one hand, and those were done to dispose of garden rubbish.
  • EvilGremlin
    EvilGremlin Posts: 6 Forumite
    edited 30 May 2019 at 4:27AM
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  • suki1964
    suki1964 Posts: 14,313 Forumite
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    Thanks, I'm not worried about the actual reports as we have gone entirely by the book, Its just another thing on top of everything that's currently getting to her and thus making her condition worse.


    @suki1964 yes I would agree with you regarding getting on with your neighbours, But some neighbours just arent "compatible" at all and will judge via looks etc.

    @Blackpool_Saver
    I disagree, There are far more pollutants in cars.

    surrounding neighbours were also using fire bins and the neighbour in question wasnt kicking up a fuss with them.. We were new to the area and saw others having fires and thought that it wasnt going to be a problem.

    Shes not really approachable either, perhaps she felt I wasnt approachable either but she wouldnt know if I was or not as she had made no effort prior to the incident with my partner.

    @TELLIT01
    We havent had any garden fires for just over a year, As mentioned, We were new to the area, everybody else was having fires without issue so I thought people were ok with it.

    We now transport burnables to the local tip so theres really no justification for this to be happening now, Even if she does have a vendetta against us.


    I am not unsympathetic at all, I had a neighbour from hell in the past - been their, got the tee shirt - survived

    But it did take a lot of looking at how we were living as well. We were young, out all day and sometimes half the night, thought nothing about putting the washing machine on at 11pm ( party wall) so no wonder she hated us with a spin cycle vibrating at 1am



    Took mediation to get is all sorted

    Sometimes you have to be the bigger person. Theres someone on these forums who always suggests a cuppa and cake and a face to face talk, and he's not wrong.

    You are implying you are feeling judged because of how you look. Now its daft but yes if you look like punk rockers or bikers, tattoos and piercings everywhere, it can be intimidating to some. You may have to find a way to show you are not intimidating and are really aprroacahable and willing to listen and come to compromise

    Sounds like Im saying its you that has to do all the running, and in a way I am. Only because obviously you are the " newbie" that seems to be upsetting the apple cart
  • EvilGremlin
    EvilGremlin Posts: 6 Forumite
    edited 30 May 2019 at 4:27AM
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  • LilElvis
    LilElvis Posts: 5,835 Forumite
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    Not exactly, It was more an example hence the "etc" at the end.


    I'm just a regular run of the mill guy, I'm happy to chat to people when approached, It's just that she felt the need to verbally abuse and threaten my partner.

    I disagree regarding "upsetting the apple cart" part though, I was merely doing what I saw everybody else doing ( neighbours from both sides of my house use firebins to remove waste which is more economical than filling a car up and doing multiple 7 mile tip runs )

    It was just that she took exception to us specifically having a fire now and then, It's not like we were having one daily, I would understand if that were the case, But it was literally at max 3 times per week, during evening hours as it was getting dark ( 7-8pm )

    Yet when one of her neighbours had a fire it was all hunky-dory.

    Three times a week is not "now and then" - it's every other day! It's totally unreasonable and unnecessary - my parents have half an acre of garden and have one bonfire a year. Like you I live in a household of three and everything we dispose of easily fits into the regular council waste collection. Perhaps your neighbour should have reported you to the council rather than DWP, but she's going to continue to make your life miserable for as long as you continue to act in such an anti-social way.
  • EvilGremlin
    EvilGremlin Posts: 6 Forumite
    edited 30 May 2019 at 4:27AM
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