Landlord/agents trying to push me onto a fixed term tenancy along with rent increase and £150 admin

G_M

You've had the law explained (many times) and nothing has changed.


You want a 12 month contract? Sign.
You don't? Ignore.

cashmonger

The only thing is I imagine the landlord would legitimately want a rent increase since it is under market value rent so I don't want to seem like an !!! and get the LLs back up for refusing the rent increase.

I notice that the agents suddenly ramped the market value up from ~£500 to £550 perhaps to goad the LL into thinking they are getting a worse deal if I refuse the increase and encouraging them to give a s21 as their best option if I resist.

Anyway I have the landlord's address now so I can contact them directly. So I will write them a letter I think but I shouldn't mention rent increase should I in case they had heard nothing of it.

Lokolo

cashmonger. You have been told time and time again what to do. Yet you persist in keeping this thread going asking what you should do next.

Why are you bothering to contact the LL? Just ignore the communication. You want to stay on SPT, then stay on it and ignore.

cashmonger

Lokolo wrote: »

Why are you bothering to contact the LL? Just ignore the communication. You want to stay on SPT, then stay on it and ignore.

But won't this set an adversarial precedent for any future contact? What happens if something goes wrong with the flat or I want something from the LL in future they will remember my lack of cooperation won't they and want to get 'revenge'.

That will also mean I won't want to be asking for references when I move and they are going to try and get the maximum amount out of me when it comes to getting deposit back.

Also I am sure the agents will be telling them how much they are missing out by my not accepting the rent increase.

I mean if I spoke to the landlord it could be me and the landlord vs the agents rather than the agents and the landlord vs me if I ignore both parties.

need_an_answer

cashmonger wrote: »

I mean if I spoke to the landlord it could be me and the landlord vs the agents rather than the agents and the landlord vs me if I ignore both parties.

some LL's employ an agent because they don't want to deal with queries from their tenant.


Essentially the LL and the agent work together...I'm sorry I'm not seeing your logic for wanting to communicate now with the LL.


It is very possible that you could spend time drafting a long impassioned email to the LL for the response to come back as "speak to the agent please"

The situation is never going to be you and the LL v the agent

cashmonger

need_an_answer wrote: »

some LL's employ an agent because they don't want to deal with queries from their tenant.


Essentially the LL and the agent work together...I'm sorry I'm not seeing your logic for wanting to communicate now with the LL.


It is very possible that you could spend time drafting a long impassioned email to the LL for the response to come back as "speak to the agent please"

I would not necessarily expect them to reply to me and would say that in the message (as was said earlier in the thread) but it would just be to dispel any myths the landlord might have said about me or any possible false reasons the agents might have given the landlord for needing to renew the tenancy. I don't see why that is so hard to understand.

I am not expecting to be 'best buds' with them. Just to give them the unbiased facts on periodic tenancies and such if the agents are giving them falsehoods to compel them to make unnecessary contracts and get their fees.

That was my rationale anyway. Surely there is a potential benefit of avoiding a needless bad relationship with no real downside? Ie at worst it will have no effect and their opinion doesn't change one way or the other about me but at best it dispels fabrications made by the agents and give the LL new info they may not have been aware of.

jimbog

cashmonger wrote: »

I would not necessarily expect them to reply to me and would say that in the message (as was said earlier in the thread) but it would just be to dispel any myths the landlord might have said about me or any possible false reasons the agents might have given the landlord for needing to renew the tenancy. I don't see why that is so hard to understand.

I am not expecting to be 'best buds' with them. Just to give them the unbiased facts on periodic tenancies and such if the agents are giving them falsehoods to compel them to make unnecessary contracts and get their fees.

That was my rationale anyway. Surely there is a potential benefit of avoiding a needless bad relationship with no real downside?

You're starting a problem where none exist. Life will throw enough problems at you without you going to look for them.

Stop it now.

Gers

You're losing the goodwill of the very experienced and knowledgeable folks on here who have consistently given you clear advice which you are persistently ignoring.

Trying to push people into your own trajectory of action is foolish at best.

Either take their advice or ignore. This is not a debating chamber.

I wish you luck in whatever path you choose to follow.

need_an_answer

Gers wrote: »

You're losing the goodwill of the very experienced and knowledgeable folks on here who have consistently given you clear advice which you are persistently ignoring.

Trying to push people into your own trajectory of action is foolish at best.

Either take their advice or ignore. This is not a debating chamber.

I wish you luck in whatever path you choose to follow.

I'm sorry OP...but I couldn't have responded better to you than this poster has.

gingercordial

cashmonger wrote: »

But won't this set an adversarial precedent for any future contact?

So what?

What happens if something goes wrong with the flat

You ask for it to be repaired in line with your CPT/SPT or the law, and cite your rights if necessary.

or I want something from the LL in future they will remember my lack of cooperation won't they and want to get 'revenge'.

I think you are overestimating how much other people care about wanting to get "revenge" especially over what is to them a business transaction. It isn't The Godfather.

That will also mean I won't want to be asking for references when I move

Nonsense. If you've paid your rent on time and not wrecked the place, what more can they say bad about you? That is all a new landlord would be looking for. Also it is usually done along with other references (employer etc) as well as checking your finances so won't matter anyway.

and they are going to try and get the maximum amount out of me when it comes to getting deposit back.

And here you have the excellent protection of the deposit scheme to stop them doing exactly that. If they try, put in a claim. Worked for me.

Also I am sure the agents will be telling them how much they are missing out by my not accepting the rent increase.

It's possible, but that could happen to anyone on a rolling contract at any time. If they want to put your rent up they have the option of a s.13 notice.

I mean if I spoke to the landlord it could be me and the landlord vs the agents rather than the agents and the landlord vs me if I ignore both parties.

It's highly unlikely that you will somehow "divide and conquer" in this way.

You are massively overthinking this. 1 June is only a couple of days away. Just don't respond at all this week!