Road Tax Robbery

AdrianC

almillar wrote: »

The idea that people are being fooled into thinking there's some kind of green grid that they get plugged into if they change supplier, is ridiculous, that's not greenwash.

Yes, it is a ridiculous idea.

But it's one that the "green tariff" marketing is entirely based on.

So let's look a little deeper.

Ecotricity claim to have "over 200k" domestic billing customers.
https://www.ecotricity.co.uk/about-ecotricity/the-ecotricity-group

Average domestic billing is ~3.75MWh/year. So that's 750GWh.
https://www.ovoenergy.com/guides/energy-guides/how-much-electricity-does-a-home-use.html

Their generation business claims 87MW of wind generation, all on-shore.
https://www.ecotricity.co.uk/our-green-energy/our-green-electricity/from-the-wind/wind-parks-gallery
There's 8,760 hours in a year. That makes 762GWh absolute maximum supply if they're flat out 24x7. Which they aren't. Ecotricity's own figures say 27% for on-shore and 35% for off-shore.
https://www.ecotricity.co.uk/our-green-energy/our-green-electricity/from-the-wind/real-time-wind-energy-production/about-our-energy-production

So they're actually generating about 205MWh/year, but supplying nearly 4x that.

Oops, guess they're fibbing - or they're counting buying other people's green generation as part of their 1:1... In which case, they can cross their fingers and claim it's true, just so long as their billing customers don't exceed the renewable supply in the grid as a whole...

In fact, you don't even need to do the sums. Just look at...
https://www.ecotricity.co.uk/our-green-energy/our-green-electricity/from-the-wind/wind-parks-gallery
They even say their current generation capacity is equivalent to 47,526 homes. But they have 200,000 customers.

almillar

OK, so your contention is that they're not keeping up?

AdrianC

almillar wrote: »

OK, so your contention is that they're not keeping up?

No, my contention is that the whole premise is misrepresention, at best.

Dal_Whinnie

As has been mentioned earlier in this thread, you can't transfer vehicle tax so that if you sell a car part way through a month both you and the purchaser have to pay a full months tax. But what happens if you sell on either the first or last days of a month, does this still effectively pay? If so, it really doesn't matter when you sell/buy, both parties pay the full months tax for the month in which the car is sold/bought