Indicative Vote

phillw

martinthebandit wrote: »

Of course the second referendum won't be fair, the snouts in the trough don't want ordinary folk to vote wrong a second time.

I wonder what they'll think if it leads to Prime Minister Farage? :cool:

The remain MPs are actually voting against their own personal interests.

Weirdly you believe the man who has had his snout in the trough to come to your rescue, *spoiler* it won't happen.

The second referendum should be timed to include all the EU citizens that have applied for settled status getting their vote, otherwise it's kinda pointless don't you think?

andrewf75 wrote: »

Immigration is the one sticking point and with a bit of vision, the government could make some firm commitments to reduce it.

They can't, the problem is that the UK is seen as a nice place to come and work & therefore every country the government has visited to make trade talks for what will happen after we leave the EU has wanted guarantees of more people being able to come here. Once we lose the weight of the other 27 EU countries, it's the only thing we have left to offer.

We either accept foreigners here or turn the country into an economic black hole so they don't want to come.

The EU needs to set a level playing field, we can already force people to return to their home country if they come here and are unable to find work or if they are convicted of certain crimes. I don't see that being increased dramatically.

I really don't understand the leave voters, if the EU relies on us for money then it would seem to be in their interest to only do things that improve our economy. Once we're out then that is no longer the case.

wymondham

its got to be a no deal, then move on..... no more pain pleeeeaaasseee!!!

Rich2808

andrewf75 wrote: »

No. There is no such thing as BRINO. You’re either in or out. Norway is 100% out.

The sensible arguments against being in the EU relate to sovereignty and a Norway-option takes us 100% out of the political project. Hardly anyone cares about doing independent trade deals or following the vast majority of EU rules. Immigration is the one sticking point and with a bit of vision, the government could make some firm commitments to reduce it.

There is no way out of this that doesn’t anger some people. I’m not suggesting Norway is perfect, its just the least damaging option.

Norway pays nearly £1 billion a year to the EU's coffers - quite a lot for a small country. And we would be subject to the same arrangements no doubt.

Not part of the club - but paying for some of the poorer actual members of the club so they can enjoy the benefits of the club?!

phillw

wymondham wrote: »

its got to be a no deal, then move on..... no more pain pleeeeaaasseee!!!

no deal will be just the start of more pain. Mogg is predicting 50 years. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=My4UM_zCpk0

Revoking article 50 is the only end to pain.

I'm just hoping the judge led inquiry finds some criminal cases to answer.