Euro Parking Services Ltd - PCN NTK

bmckay55120

Very interesting thread, many thanks
Contravention Date: 22/7/19, Issie Date 9/8/19 date received was 14/8/19
Im the Keeper, Not the driver. Does this mean this claim should be cancelled?

Chamberlain Buildings, Fredrick Street, Birmingham, B1 3HN

greenfalco

ShakeItOff said:

Welcome!

Firstly, please can you edit your post so that it isn't clear who was driving? The PPCs do come and have a read, so you don't want to identify yourself.

Appeal using the NEWBIES template - don't edit it, it's perfectly fine as it is. You've rightly noted that they are IPC, so there is no point in appealing to them.

You might find it helpful to search the board to see how litigious Euro Parking Services are, and where they trip themselves up.

If your appeal fails, expect the debt collection letters as standard (nothing to worry about - they can't do you any harm), but DO come back and see what the advice is when/if you get a letter before claim.

Also, very importantly, if you move house in the next 6 years (the amount of time they have to bring a claim), send their Data Protection Officer a rectification notice with your new address. You don't want them sneaking through a default CCJ because they couldn't be bothered to check for your new address.

Good evening,
Just double checking, the keeper recently received a ‘final warning’ letter from EPS Ltd demanding a £100 payment. If it was a letter before a claim, would it state ‘Letter before a claim’?
Kind regards,
GF

KeithP

If it was a Letter Before Claim it would give you thirty days to respond.
It would also include response forms - not that you would be using them.
It could also be named Letter of Claim, Letter Before Action or anything else that gets the message across.

Why not show us the letter, suitably redacted of course, if you have doubts?

greenfalco

KeithP said:

If it was a Letter Before Claim it would give you thirty days to respond.
It would also include response forms - not that you would be using them.
It could also be named Letter of Claim, Letter Before Action or anything else that gets the message across.

Why not show us the letter, suitably redacted of course, if you have doubts?

Thank you Keith,
See attached image, do let me know if I should blackout any other areas?
Kind regards,
GF

Le_Kirk

That is a Final Reminder and does not count as a letter before claim.

greenfalco

Good morning,

The keeper yesterday received a letter titled 'Letter Before Court Action'. The keeper has 14 days to pay £160.00 or to acknowledge receipt of the letter and to provide a full written response.

Please can someone advise on the next steps?

I am very busy with work at present and being a new father this will cause unwanted stress. I can see why people just give in and pay. The harassment is very un-lawful, however I don't want to let them win!

Kind regards, GF

Le_Kirk

That is not a letter before claim, more like a debt collector's letter with frighteners.  Read back through your thread, you have already been advised (by KeithP) that it has to give 30 days not 14, before it can be a pucker LOC.

Redx

None , the 30 days plus including financial forms is an LBC

14 days is a debt collector letter

The harassment may be stressful , but it's not unlawful

D_P_Dance

Many judges regard thes "sloppily parhked" court claims as trivial, sometimes you have no option but to park waywardly, and it this gets to court the PPC could struggle, read this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_minimis

Nine times out of ten these tickets are scams, so consider complaining to your MP., it can cause the scammer extra costs and work, and in some cases, cancellation.

Parliament is well aware of the MO of these private parking companies, many of whom are former clampers, and on 15th March 2019 a Bill was enacted to curb the excesses of these shysters. Codes of Practice are being drawn up, an independent appeals service will be set up, and access to the DVLA's date base more rigorously policed, persistent offenders denied access to the DVLA database and unable to operate.

Hopefully life will become impossible for the worst of these scammers, but until this is done you should still complain to your MP, citing the new legislation.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2019/8/contents/enacted

Just as the clampers were finally closed down, so hopefully will many of these Private Parking Companies.

greenfalco

Thank you Le_Kirk and Redx,
Unlawful is the wrong word, perhaps immoral!
The letter states that without response, EPS will instruct Gladstones Solicitors to commence proceedings against the keeper.
I look forward to the next letter... Thanks again!