Premier Park, parking charge notice.

Coupon-mad

john-306 wrote: »

Well we've had the SAR pack arrive.
The most interesting thing is in the "comments box" it links straight to this thread. So they are watching.
Can someone explain next steps please?
Thanks

LOL, yet again PP, business must be slow!

Look at the thread by Andrew Gogan, where PP even sent him an intimidating pm.

{Hello PP Legal, why did you stop posting here (your so called official PP poster ran away and never came back to darken our doors)? We were quite enjoying the debate with you...and since then we've helped people beat you in court...again...}.

Am I correct POPLA is now a no go as it's been over a year since incident occurred, and we should just go straight down the formal appeal to company themselves?

It's too late for ANY appeal.

You need to read the NEWBIES thread post #2 and you will get a LBC then a claim, and can defend it. That sticky thread tells you exactly how and what the procedure is, and that there is NO RISK. No CCJ, no huge costs, always worth beating a scam.

john-306

We've just received a "Final Demand, prior to commencement of court action. Do not ignore this letter.
Unless payment received by 23rd May, proceedings will be commenced before the Civil Courts for recovery of monies owed together with allowable legal costs, without further reference to yourself.


Can we presume this is the final letter before court action or another one of their pay up or else we'll send you another letter to pay up again?
Thanks

Coupon-mad

If it was a real LBC it has to give 30 days and 'PAP 2017' reply forms.

john-306

Thanks Coupon-mad, it didn't have any reply forms with it.
This letter is giving till the 23rd May to pay, previous letter gave to the 8th May to pay. This new letter was dated 9th May, nothing written about 30 days.

KeithP

john-306 wrote: »

This letter is giving till the 23rd May to pay, previous letter gave to the 8th May to pay. This new letter was dated 9th May, nothing written about 30 days.

Not a Letter of Claim then.

A debt collectors letter - ignore it.

john-306

Update.....
They are still trying....
We had a letter off PremierPark dated 9th July 2019, stating as you have failed to pay so this has now been sent to our legal team bwlegal.
Same dated letter off bwlegal, pay up within 14 days or we will start legal proceedings.
Letter dated 25th July 2019 from bwlegal saying we have been instructed to commence legal action against you.
enclosed are information sheet about avoiding court action a reply form and an income and expenditure form.
Additionally the debt of £160 if not payed would increase to....


Debt + initial legal costs.. £160
Estimated interest.............£11.77
Estimated court fees.........£25
Estimated solicitors costs..£50

Estimated total.............. £246.77


So up to now we started with PremierPark, they moved us on to their legal team PPLegal, then back to PremierPark then onto their (other) legal approved team bwlegal.... Wow

Quentin

Read up on this in the newbies FAQ thread

Post#2 there covers Court claims right through from the LBC you have received to the hearing

Keep that post as your Bible till this reaches its conclusion

(Don't return their forms!)

john-306

Quentin wrote: »

Read up on this in the newbies FAQ thread

Post#2 there covers Court claims right through from the LBC you have received to the hearing

Keep that post as your Bible till this reaches its conclusion

(Don't return their forms!)

Thanks, I have done.
This was just an update in case anyone else has the same problems and what they can expect.

beamerguy

john-306 wrote: »

Debt + initial legal costs.. £160
Estimated interest.............£11.77
Estimated court fees.........£25
Estimated solicitors costs..£50

Estimated total.............. £246.77

Typical BWLegal ABUSE OF PROCESS claim.

So this is a Letter before claim and should give you 30 days to respond and rebut.
Did they provide proof of their claim, pictures etc etc.

As the amount of £160 is fake and the debt is £100, you need to ask BWL how they account for the add-on £60

The interest charge should be dismissed by the court on the basis of why did they take so long to issue a claim.

They are misleading you regarding "estimated" the court fee of £25 and legal costs of £50 are set amounts, not estimated.
A judge may care to ask BWLegal what they mean by estimated

The £60 add-on has been deemed as Abuse of process as you can read here
Abuse of Process ... District Judge tells BWLegal
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6014081/abuse-of-process-district-judge-tells-bwlegal&highlight=abuse+of+process

Ask for a full explanation of the £60 add-on

john-306

Thanks for reply beamerguy.
They class it as a "Letter of claim" and give 30 days to fill in and return the forms.
Premierpark initially sent proof of claim and pics of car leaving car park, then I asked for SAR and got full pics and times/dates etc.


I thought it was best not to respond at this stage?



Thanks for link.