Any Live In Carers

sportsarb

whambam wrote: »

You only get carers premium if you are getting certain benefits not carers allowance alone. Why should those carers on allowance alone be only paid less than what they claim the law says you need to live on.

The law only says you need that to live on if you claim the benefits that it applies to ie. JSA(IB)/ESA(IR)/IS or the Carers element on UC.

Show me one Carers Allowance letter where it says the law says you need £105 Carers Allowance to live on and I will concede the point.

whambam

sportsarb wrote: »

The law only says you need that to live on if you claim the benefits that it applies to ie. JSA(IB)/ESA(IR)/IS or the Carers element on UC.

Show me one Carers Allowance letter where it says the law says you need £105 Carers Allowance to live on and I will concede the point.

So, what your saying is the law to live on only applies to certain benefits and not an individual circumstances?

theoretica

whambam wrote: »

You only get carers premium if you are getting certain benefits not carers allowance alone. Why should those carers on allowance alone be only paid less than what they claim the law says you need to live on.

If you are getting carer's allowance, you will be caring for someone who also gets benefits, such as PIP for the help they need. The government isn't going to pay twice for the same care. If you and the cared for person agree you are providing that care then they have been given the rest of the money for you to live off.


Carer's allowance £64 + higher level daily living PIP £85 = £149 a week

whambam

theoretica wrote: »

If you are getting carer's allowance, you will be caring for someone who also gets benefits, such as PIP for the help they need. The government isn't going to pay twice for the same care. If you and the cared for person agree you are providing that care then they have been given the rest of the money for you to live off.


Carer's allowance £64 + higher level daily living PIP £85 = £149 a week

The government is not paying twice for the same care its 2 different people in question who have the rights and entitlements as the law states. The carer and cared for should be paid the for what the law says you should live on.

Another benefit is job seekers allowance people who get no other benefits apart from JSA IB/CB as living below the what the law says you need to live on which is £105 pw? JSA is £72.40pw

Question is are DWP breaking the law by paying less?

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/247167/response/612323/attach/html/2/FoI%20IR%2028.pdf.html

theoretica

whambam wrote: »

The government is not paying twice for the same care its 2 different people in question who have the rights and entitlements as the law states. The carer and cared for should be paid the for what the law says you should live on.

The government, rightly, gives much of the money for care to the person who gets the care, so that they can pay for it. It is their care after all and they should determine who they want to do it. So yes, the carer should be paid, but not direct by the government- by the cared for with the money they have been given for their care.

whambam

theoretica wrote: »

The government, rightly, gives much of the money for care to the person who gets the care, so that they can pay for it. It is their care after all and they should determine who they want to do it. So yes, the carer should be paid, but not direct by the government- by the cared for with the money they have been given for their care.

I'm not disputing if the carer gets paid, what I am disputing is the amount without any other benefits they claim the law says to need to live on.

They say it's a regulation however on their letters it states its a law.

So, you believe a disabled persons benefit should be enough to pay for care costs which may amount to £350-£1500 per week on average?

Or a relative should sacrifice their time and financial loss rather than working a business or company to care for free or £66 pw on carers allowance?

nicechap

whambam wrote: »

Yes, and what have the MP's done for the last 3 years betrayed the public with brexit and we are happy to fund and vote for them for this?

You know absolutely nothing about me remember that. Do not put words into my mouth.

h

whambam wrote: »

So, what your saying is the law to live on only applies to certain benefits and not an individual circumstances?

whambam wrote: »

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So, you believe a disabled persons benefit should be enough to pay for care costs which may amount to £350-£1500 per week on average?

Or a relative should sacrifice their time and financial loss rather than working a business or company to care for free or £66 pw on carers allowance?

Kettle, pot, meet each other.

[Deleted User]

whambam wrote: »

I'm not disputing if the carer gets paid, what I am disputing is the amount without any other benefits they claim the law says to need to live on.

They say it's a regulation however on their letters it states its a law.

So, you believe a disabled persons benefit should be enough to pay for care costs which may amount to £350-£1500 per week on average?

Or a relative should sacrifice their time and financial loss rather than working a business or company to care for free or £66 pw on carers allowance?

That's what PIP or DLA is for along with direct payments if they qualify. It is for them to choose what care they want and pay for it.

sportsarb

whambam wrote: »

So, what your saying is the law to live on only applies to certain benefits and not an individual circumstances?

You are the one who dropped the '~£105 the law says you need to live on' figure in to things. I'm presuming that you got that figure from somewhere, and that it isn't just coincidence that it comes close to the £109.10 figure that people in receipt on an income related benefit are entitled to, other than benefit law I'm not sure that it is laid down anywhere else in law that there is a prescribed minimum amount that people are entitled to.

In any case, why would a carer not claim all benefits that are available to them? It makes no logical sense to claim Carers Allowance but not claim other benefits that are available. The only reason someone could have for not claiming the other benefits is that they are sure they would not be entitled because there is another income involved or there are savings involved.

theoretica

whambam wrote: »

So, you believe a disabled persons benefit should be enough to pay for care costs which may amount to £350-£1500 per week on average?

The lower of those figures, yes. Because they are fromresidential care.


So take off cost of a room £100 pw (from student living costs) and prepared food £50 leaves at most £200pw actually for care, and all paperwork, management, income tax and NI that in family care is unlikely to have.